Arab people are invaders in the land that the state of Israel resides on. They're not indigenous

You can't just invade someone's land, appropriate it for yourself, and then call anyone who wants to reclaim it an invader

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 2 2023 03:56pm

Right now the only evidence for ethnic clensing came from the Arab side.
Who invade Israel, kidnapped babies, raped everything with pulse, killed 260 civilians in a peace party, killed elders, mutilated everyone they could, place babies in ovens.
Just because they are Jews.

We are done explaining ourselves it either them or us.
So they can surrender
if they chose not to its their fault.

Furthermore you cant blame Israel for ethnic clensing simply because arabs are 20% of the Israeli population some of them are hitting back Hamas right now as soldiers in Gaza

I have nothing against Arabs

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 2 2023 03:58pm

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It doesn't matter if you want to call them something other than Palestinians. The fact is, prior to your people settling in this general region, there were already people living here. And from their perspective, your ancestors were invaders.



I feel that it's not constructive to talk about who the land belongs to. I look at it from the perspective of ordinary people who have been living there. And it so happens that Palestinians have been living in the general region for generations. And from their perspective, the Israelis are invaders.

Besides, if you go back in history far enough, you will probably find that these Israelis' ancestors also invaded another people's land and displaced the original inhabitants. If you want to claim that Israelis are the rightful owner of this land, you need to prove that they were the absolute first people to have arrived in and lived in said land.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Nov 2 2023 04:20pm

ye, I think this topic has really brought them out.

Anyone that thinks Hamas don't have support amongst Palestinians are out of their minds.

Can we stop pretending Hamas and Palestinians are two totally separate groups.

I agree that it's not constructive, or generally very valid, to discuss who the "rightful" owners of the land are.

I see it more pragmatically. The land belongs to whomever can claim it. The only rightful owners of the land are those who can maintain the strength of arms to claim the territory, which is Israel.

This is universal. The land of the USA rightfully belongs to the USA since they claimed it and no one else has staked a claim.

Although the case of Israel is somewhat special in that we actually do know the ancient history. The original inhabitants of the land were known as the Canaanites (Phoenician and Punic being the Greek and Roman names respectively), whom are now extinct and thus cannot claim the land. When they were expelled from the land by the Israelites as documented in the Bible, they sailed and founded other nations, the most well known being the thalassocratic Carthagian Empire, which was destroyed by the Romans.

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 2 2023 04:34pm

Thats not true, and its irrelevant to the subject.
Muslims countries are one third of the world continent, Arab countries have more land than the entire continent of europe.
Arabs by definition came from the Arabian peninsula.
jews by definition came from Judea.

Gaza was once part of egypt and since 2005 its their land.
They chose to use violence and they are now paying the price.

You know before 1948 Israel didnt exist?

He simply distract us from the subject which is Hamas terrorist organization which massacred 1000 civilians just because it could.
Organization that embedded itself in civilian population, that even Isis pale near their actions.
This brutal organization cannot sit on our borders.