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Apr 9 2021 11:08am
https://twitter.com/oliver_drk/status/1380201564745388033

I suppose in theory uninformed people not voting is a reasonable idea... but I can't remember right-wingers floating this during the 4 years we were governed by an evil, incompetent reality show star.


Quote (Santara @ Apr 9 2021 12:12pm)
That fucking cunt Joe Biden is now setting his sights on packing the Supreme Court. No one should be surprised.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1380536385958985736


There's a near zero chance Biden would try to expand the Supreme Court.

His major governing pursuits are popular. Expanding the Supreme Court would not be.

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https://twitter.com/oliver_drk/status/1380201564745388033

I suppose in theory uninformed people not voting is a reasonable idea... but I can't remember right-wingers floating this during the 4 years we were governed by an evil, incompetent reality show star.




There's a near zero chance Biden would try to expand the Supreme Court.

His major governing pursuits are popular. Expanding the Supreme Court would not be.


Agreed, Biden is in for an easy ride if he can hold the economy together while pushing things like ineffectual gun control, infrastructure packages, and stimulus checks. no reason for him to get into choppy waters at this time.
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Apr 9 2021 11:32am
Quote (Santara @ Apr 9 2021 12:12pm)
That fucking cunt Joe Biden is now setting his sights on packing the Supreme Court. No one should be surprised.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1380536385958985736


It is interesting to see how the bipartisan term "Court-packing", used for decades by members of both parties, has been summarily dropped in favor of Court "balancing".

And we wonder why vast tracts of this country consider the media an established wing of the Democratic party.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eyh5_txXEAE_P6y.jpg

Biden's ATF pick posing with the bodies of dead women and children ~ April 1993


He's going to have a hell of a time being confirmed. He's lied about far too many things and is going to be raked over the coals. This seems like a sacrificial lamb.
Quote (Santara @ Apr 9 2021 09:12am)
That fucking cunt Joe Biden is now setting his sights on packing the Supreme Court. No one should be surprised.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1380536385958985736


You're overreacting because there's zero chance that Congress acts on the commission's findings. This is Biden just checking a box to fulfill a campaign promise. Also, McConnell effectively packed SCOTUS over the past 5 years so it really shouldn't rustle your jimmies.

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It is interesting to see how the bipartisan term "Court-packing", used for decades by members of both parties, has been summarily dropped in favor of Court "balancing".

And we wonder why vast tracts of this country consider the media an established wing of the Democratic party.


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Breaking News: President Biden will create a panel to study expanding the Supreme Court in an effort to balance the conservative majority created by Donald Trump.


This strikes me as pretty objective language. Just because politicians on both sides use pejorative terms doesn't mean the media has to.
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Apr 9 2021 11:40am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 9 Apr 2021 18:14)
He might be saying "weaken", like lowering it to 55 votes to break it, or limiting time. Making it a standing fillibuster wouldn't weaken it since it still retains all the same power to stop legislation, but it would make it harder to use. Same strength, more sacrifice.

We'll just have to see.


With the current filibuster rules, a bill can be stopped infintely. If a standing filibuster is required, the minority party can at most hope to delay a bill by like... 3-4 months? if they go all out in their efforts. Doesnt seem like "same strength" to me.


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Quote (Santara @ 9 Apr 2021 18:12)
That fucking cunt Joe Biden is now setting his sights on packing the Supreme Court. No one should be surprised.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1380536385958985736

Quote (IceMage @ 9 Apr 2021 19:08)
There's a near zero chance Biden would try to expand the Supreme Court.

His major governing pursuits are popular. Expanding the Supreme Court would not be.


Well, his major governing priorities so far have been popular. (There's lots of smaller stuff being pushed by his admin which is aids though.)
This does not rule out that he might turn to controversial or unpopular stuff later on in his presidency.

In any case, I think this panel/commission is an attempt by Biden to deflect the left's pressure for packing the Supreme Court rather than a genuine effort on his side to ram it through.
"Creating a commission to study doing X" is textbook political language for "I dont actually want to do X, but I cant say that out loud and want to buy time until everyone has forgotten about X".

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It is interesting to see how the bipartisan term "Court-packing", used for decades by members of both parties, has been summarily dropped in favor of Court "balancing".

And we wonder why vast tracts of this country consider the media an established wing of the Democratic party.


Probably because McConnell owned the libs so badly that the game changed? Brett Kavanaugh is the median Justice on the Court so it IS unbalanced from an ideological perspective. The Court was 5-4 for many many decades and now it's not.

Look, I'm glad that SCOTUS is going to be conservative for years to come, but you seem to struggle with some insanely obvious concepts.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 9 2021 10:40am)
With the current filibuster rules, a bill can be stopped infintely. If a standing filibuster is required, the minority party can at most hope to delay a bill by like... 3-4 months? if they go all out in their efforts. Doesnt seem like "same strength" to me.


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Well, his major governing priorities so far have been popular. (There's lots of smaller stuff being pushed by his admin which is aids though.)
This does not rule out that he might turn to controversial or unpopular stuff later on in his presidency.

In any case, I think this panel/commission is an attempt by Biden to deflect the left's pressure for packing the Supreme Court rather than a genuine effort on his side to ram it through.
"Creating a commission to study doing X" is textbook political language for "I dont actually want to do X, but I cant say that out loud and want to buy time until everyone has forgotten about X".


Indeed. There will likely be a commission on reparations too if there isn't one already. TBH, we should expand the judiciary in general so that we can hear more cases. The first one would have to be immigration courts. Those are ridiculously understaffed.
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Apr 9 2021 11:48am
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Probably because McConnell owned the libs so badly that the game changed? Brett Kavanaugh is the median Justice on the Court so it IS unbalanced from an ideological perspective. The Court was 5-4 for many many decades and now it's not.

Look, I'm glad that SCOTUS is going to be conservative for years to come, but you seem to struggle with some insanely obvious concepts.


Of course he's not, you're being ridiculous.

The Supreme Court is not and shouldn't be viewed as extensions of our two main political parties. Breyer spoke at length about this a few days ago. Packing the courts for the express purpose of effecting ideological change would destroy the Court's credibility. It would be orders of magnitude worse than anything Trump has or could reasonably have done.
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Quote (thundercock @ 9 Apr 2021 13:40)
Probably because McConnell owned the libs so badly that the game changed? Brett Kavanaugh is the median Justice on the Court so it IS unbalanced from an ideological perspective. The Court was 5-4 for many many decades and now it's not.

Look, I'm glad that SCOTUS is going to be conservative for years to come, but you seem to struggle with some insanely obvious concepts.


Kavanaugh and Barrett are squishy and Roberts is already the chief architect of saying it is constitutional for unmitigated taxing of people for products they dont use or want. it’s hardly reich-wing despite the media’s doomsday fearmongering
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