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Apr 20 2020 07:03am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 20 2020 08:49am)
Go read some news and try to figure out what's going on and then come back and comment.



I don't understand what you want.

Either governors have the power to open up or Trump. Few weeks back you guys were mad that Trump was usurping power from governors who know better what's going on in their states, now you're mad he isn't deciding how all states should behave?

Like make up your mind lol.
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I don't understand what you want.

Either governors have the power to open up or Trump. Few weeks back you guys were mad that Trump was usurping power from governors who know better what's going on in their states, now you're mad he isn't deciding how all states should behave?

Like make up your mind lol.


Seriously, do you have a reading disability? Skinned said nothing about the Trump deciding how states should behave. He said "States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies.". The best interpretation we can give here for your case is that Trump is still trying to force states open but isn't providing the resources to make that a thing.

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Seriously, do you have a reading disability? Skinned said nothing about the Trump deciding how states should behave. He said "States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies.". The best interpretation we can give here for your case is that Trump is still trying to force states open but isn't providing the resources to make that a thing.


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The amount of cases is growing seriously. States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies. Trump says it is not his problem, he is going for one term apparently


Apparently you have issues with reading comprehension, he very clearly mentions Trump in decision to open or not.

We've been over this. Trump is not a god, he's not sitting there capriciously deciding which states get supplies which don't. If Ohio isn't getting them then that probably means the federal government probably doesn't have those resources?

You guys sound like a bunch of 13 year old girls crying about how the world is unfair and daddy Trump is to blame for everything, when if you critically think about he doesn't have control over supply/demand dynamics.
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Apparently you have issues with reading comprehension, he very clearly mentions Trump in decision to open or not.


Mentions in the decision =/= Trump deciding how states behave

If Trump wants states to open he needs to provide supplies to make that possible.

If the federal government doesn't have the resources to make opening safely possible then don't push states to open.

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Mentions in the decision =/= Trump deciding how states behave

If Trump wants states to open he needs to provide supplies to make that possible.

If the federal government doesn't have the resources to make opening safely possible then don't push states to open.



Again Trump doesn't have magical powers of spawning scarce supplies, i know you guys view him as an almighty god-figure but that doesn't represent reality.

He shouldn't be making the choice on a state level since states are so different, hence why he gave governors power over opening or not.
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Quote (excellence @ Apr 20 2020 08:50am)
i guess they want a full-blown authoritarian state set up, so that when Hillary steps in during the convention that sets the stage for their ‘solution’ for America. calling people “tards” is not a good look either but hey guess some are still stuck in the past

and who the fuck is “Focci” lmao


You know who I'm talking about, and what is what is important.

Is focci dense savory bread?

Didn't realize the stage requiring federal assistance when struggling is an authoritarian measure.

States probly just made a federal union and gave up their own power for the heck of it.

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Again Trump doesn't have magical powers of spawning scarce supplies, i know you guys view him as an almighty god-figure but that doesn't represent reality.

He shouldn't be making the choice on a state level since states are so different, hence why he gave governors power over opening or not.


If he doesn't have resources then he shouldn't have ever been pushing states to open.

He never "gave governors power", he stopped trying to take the power they always had.

Trump is getting criticized for trying to force governors to open their states while not providing the resources to make that possible. Everything Skinned is saying is totally consistent with this.
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If he doesn't have resources then he shouldn't have ever been pushing states to open.

He never "gave governors power", he stopped trying to take the power they always had.

Trump is getting criticized for trying to force governors to open their states while not providing the resources to make that possible. Everything Skinned is saying is totally consistent with this.


Forcing...lmao, so dramatic. Forcing would be to hold aid or some other form of punishment for not opening, not him saying it'd be nice to open some parts on a local level.
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Seriously, do you have a reading disability? Skinned said nothing about the Trump deciding how states should behave. He said "States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies.". The best interpretation we can give here for your case is that Trump is still trying to force states open but isn't providing the resources to make that a thing.


That is why i didn't even respond. He can't even read the words and he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Trumps says states you have to open, especially blue states, because i need the economy to be going.

Governors: we need to open too, we are fucking broke, and we are struggling which this population you barely have any of that is ill and needs medical treatment. We can't properly assess patients without tests. NY has no regeant to dye the tests with, ohio lacks test taking supplies like swaps etc. We know you have been stocking up we need that now so we can make plans to open, which we both want.

Trump: i have federal authority over all states, states rights arent conservative anymore and the party will go along because I've emasculated them so effectively, I literally skullfucked a full frontal lobotomy in the vast majority of the Republican Party. Also i won't help you, i will open you, i will do so by announcing it on twitter.

Governors: you know we can work together and do this, why do you think everything you have purchased with money from our citizens to provide to their general welfare is yours and not theirs?

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Apr 20 2020 07:59am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 20 2020 07:46am)
Why are Trumptards demanding to fire Focci now?

They want to keep daily excuses and ass kissing circles, but fire the doctor?

Any Trumptards here wanna speak on this?

The amount of cases is growing seriously. States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies. Trump says it is not his problem, he is going for one term apparently


As David French said on Twitter, Trump can't fail, he can only be failed. In other words, if he makes a bad decision, it's just the fault of whatever adviser he listened to. The cult can't grant him any responsibility for his failures.

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Again Trump doesn't have magical powers of spawning scarce supplies, i know you guys view him as an almighty god-figure but that doesn't represent reality.

He shouldn't be making the choice on a state level since states are so different, hence why he gave governors power over opening or not.


Yeah... it's not like the president has the power to mobilize companies to manufacture necessary equipment, or use federal agencies to navigate supply chains and ramp up testing.

Trump can't give away power he doesn't have... lol. States determine when things open back up. It'd be nice if the president was the national figure who provided guidance... particular early on when states wouldn't close. But he was too busy owning the libs to do those silly presidential things.

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