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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 25 2021 08:14pm)
Me: landlords should be able to handle losing income because its a risky investment

Bob: THIS IS LITERAL COMMUNISM


I hate high density housing in the suburbs that tend to house illegal immigrant, so I am completely okay with this.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 25 2021 07:19pm)
Rather than reporting you for spam, let's analyze your level of stupid so that perhaps you'll simply stop spamming.

Your claim, "Tenants should be able to live rent free during covid, otherwise they'll be homeless!"

Article, "Tenant is living rent free. Due to the tenant living rent free, the private landlord is now homeless. So while the private landlord is paying the mortgage, upkeep, utilities, and taxes on a home THEY own, THEY are homeless so that a useless squatter can live comfortably in THEIR home for a YEAR."

Now, I don't understand where your disconnect is here. You want to put 100% of the onus on the landlord to support the tenant at the complete and total expense of themselves. Why? Because covid? No. Because communism. Only a communist would feel that a useless squatter should have a home while the person paying for that home is homeless.


Nah, it's purely because if we didn't have eviction moratoriums it would make the pandemic far worse, would overwhelm the infrastructure around the homeless, and would result in a homelessness crisis far worse than even the great depression.

I feel bad for landlords who can't evict shitty tenants, but the results of mass homelessness would be country and economy destroying even worse than what we've already experienced.

I put the onus on the shitty government response, not on the tenant and not on the landlord. I do, however, think the landlord should have expected a situation at some point where renting out her property was difficult, as that's the most basic hardship a landlord can experience.
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Mar 25 2021 06:29pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 25 Mar 2021 17:25)
Nah, it's purely because if we didn't have eviction moratoriums it would make the pandemic far worse, would overwhelm the infrastructure around the homeless, and would result in a homelessness crisis far worse than even the great depression.

I feel bad for landlords who can't evict shitty tenants, but the results of mass homelessness would be country and economy destroying even worse than what we've already experienced.

I put the onus on the shitty government response, not on the tenant and not on the landlord. I do, however, think the landlord should have expected a situation at some point where renting out her property was difficult, as that's the most basic hardship a landlord can experience.


Again false. If the government is going to lockdown businesses so that tenants have no income, then it's up to the government to provide mortgage relief to the landlord. The government failed to do so.

Since the government failed to provide any relief, then since it's the landlord paying for their own property, paying all the bills for that property, they need to have the right to move into the property THEY are paying for rather than being homeless.

In your communist utopia, however, the person who has invested nothing and is paying nothing sleeps warm and comfortable while somebody else works as a homeless slave to pay for the squatter's free ride.

How many households would be homeless if the squatter is evicted? One. How many households are homeless because the landlord is working as a slave to support the squatter like an errant child? One.

AGAIN, only a communist believes others should slave away full time homeless so that others can have a free ride. You have NOT put the onus on the shitty democratic government of New York. You've put the onus on the landlord for not "planning ahead" to fully support a squatter.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 25 2021 07:29pm)
Again false. If the government is going to lockdown businesses so that tenants have no income, then it's up to the government to provide mortgage relief to the landlord. The government failed to do so.


That's a very reasonable position. Almost sounds like one I've said a dozen times in a dozen threads including the post you are literally quoting where I called out the government response.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ 25 Mar 2021 17:31)
That's a very reasonable position. Almost sounds like one I've said a dozen times in a dozen threads including the post you are literally quoting where I called out the government response.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ 14 Mar 2021 14:12)
Why didn't the landlord plan for a rainy day? Sounds like he should have planned ahead. You shouldn't be able to evict a tenant because of your bad planning.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 14 Mar 2021 21:55)
I'm only half kidding. If you're going to be a landlord you better have your finances in order to the point where you can go 2 years without income and not have to sell that house. Anything less is leaving yourself open to getting screwed.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 15 Mar 2021 05:54)
This is not a "these days" thing dude. Being a landlord has always been a risky business. You have to assume you will have long stretches where your house might sit empty and if you lose another source of income during that time you're fucked. This is the absolute most basic thing you have to account for when you become a landlord.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 15 Mar 2021 06:18)
Pretty dumb to say that the government's don't see this as a problem. It's just a significantly less intense problem then a brand new homeless population of five million all springing up overnight.

If we had some sort of universal basic income and our governments had taken this as seriously as the government's in France and the Euro Zone in general then this wouldn't be a problem. But instead we have Republicans in America trying to avoid all the necessary assistance because that would be Socialism or some b*******


Quote (Thor123422 @ 24 Mar 2021 09:58)
A rental can sit vacant for a year as a matter of course. Not ideal, but far from an anomoly. A restaurant isn't expected to go a day without customers.

Of course its ridiculous when you apply the same standards to different businesses with different levels of vacancy.


Right. You've been totally criticizing the Democratic response in New York, rather than blaming the landlord. :rolleyes:

Stop spamming, stop lying, and stop being stupid.

The landlord is homeless when they're still paying for their property. They shouldn't be homeless. They are only homeless because the government has imposed homelessness on them, and is forcing them to act as a slave to provide a home for a squatter.

Communism at it's finest.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 25 2021 06:34pm
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 25 2021 07:33pm)
Right. You've been totally criticizing the Democratic response in New York, rather than blaming the landlord. :rolleyes:

Stop spamming, stop lying, and stop being stupid.

The landlord is homeless when they're still paying for their property. They shouldn't be homeless. They are only homeless because the government has imposed homelessness on them, and is forcing them to act as a slave to provide a home for a squatter.

Communism at it's finest.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 25 2021 09:02am)
Unfortunately if we just threw them out on the street right now it would have only made covid-19, and the economic issues surrounding covid-19 also worwe as a result. We really should have done some kind of blanket federal wage replacement like was done in several European countries.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 25 2021 08:26am)
If you're renting a property, it's just reality that you need to be able to take a year without rent. That's not something new, it's how the market works. Don't like it? There are safer investment vehicles with lower returns. It's not pro-millionaire to point out that some investment vehicles are riskier than others and you need to be able to absorb the risk without annihilating your position.

We should have a much stronger social safety net and better income equality. Those are the policies that lead to most people not being able to have rentals, not the fact that rentals are inherently riskier than an ETF.



Man you're on a roll tonight lol
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 25 Mar 2021 17:34)
Man you're on a roll tonight lol


Even your own quotes are stupid. At any point, if the Landlord went a year without a tenant, they could move into their own property. Do you understand? They do NOT need to be able to take a year without rent.

You're attempting to impose corporate guidelines that are themselves false on private ownership. Once again, why is a landlord homeless while the home they've actively paid for for the last year has a squatter they can't evict?

Why are you blaming the landlord for the communist policies of the New York "Democratic" government?

Edit: Even had this been a case where the landlord DID end up without a tenant for a year but it was a secondary property, they could simply sell the property, cashing out the equity they'd gained from their initial investment + payments. But due to the anti-eviction policy, they cannot even put the home up for sale.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 25 2021 06:41pm
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Which of these bright young stars will be the successor to AOC?
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Which of these bright young stars will be the successor to AOC?
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