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Jun 5 2016 03:23pm
Quote (timmayX @ Jun 5 2016 01:21pm)
Yep he's the only one responsible. You're right.

No good regressive liberal has control of his or her own actions.


Definitely what I said
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Jun 5 2016 04:26pm
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Definitely what I said


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Jun 5 2016 05:08pm
Clinton not getting the shut out she would have wanted in PR but a nice lead

gonna be super close to what she needs tonight heading into the last of the states

media is excited to call it game over after jersey
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Jun 5 2016 05:36pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 5 2016 05:08pm)
Clinton not getting the shut out she would have wanted in PR but a nice lead

gonna be super close to what she needs tonight heading into the last of the states

media is excited to call it game over after jersey


Media was excited to call it game over before it was over. It's been over since March though.
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Jun 5 2016 05:42pm
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Media was excited to call it game over before it was over. It's been over since March though.


They enjoyed pretending Bernie had a chance after March they just finally ran out of scenarios where Bernie could theoretically catch up and are now salivating publicly for the Trump vs Clinton battle
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Jun 6 2016 07:43am
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/mark-cuban-donald-trump-puppet-president/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

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Mark Cuban is questioning Donald Trump's ability to function independently if elected, saying the presumptive Republican nominee would be a "puppet president" hamstrung by a lack of experience and intellectual rigor.
"He would be so dependent on everyone around him because of his lack of depth of knowledge and fear of failing," Cuban told BuzzFeed News in an email interview.

"And he isn't good at hiring either," the billionaire owner of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks continued. "That's why he puts family (and he gets credit for having such smart, accomplished kids) in so many important positions."
Cuban said he likes his "thin-skinned" fellow billionaire businessman but said Trump "has absolutely zero self-awareness. None. Zip."
It's not the first time Cuban has sought to take Trump down a peg.
Asked in an interview with CNN's Erin Burnett on "OutFront" last month how smart he thinks Trump is, Cuban replied: "Probably not as smart as he thinks he is."
In an email to CNNMoney days earlier, Cuban confirmed reports that he'd been asked to consider a third party run in November, saying, "It would have been fun to run against Donald" but that it was "too late" to enter the race.
Earlier that week, Cuban offered a gathering of of hedge fund professionals at the SALT conference in Las Vegas his outline for defeating Trump in the general election.
First, he said, Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton should choose a bombastic running mate, "someone like me who would just throw bombs at Donald" -- a job Cuban said he would consider if he was allowed to rip and ridicule the Republican.
But Cuban has also criticized Trump in more stark terms, telling Burnett during their conversation that a Trump victory in November could lead to a "huge, huge correction" in the stock market.
"That uncertainty, potentially as the president of the United States, that's the last thing Wall Street wants to hear," he said.


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Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 5 2016 06:42pm)
They enjoyed pretending Bernie had a chance after March they just finally ran out of scenarios where Bernie could theoretically catch up and are now salivating publicly for the Trump vs Clinton battle


Bernie is taking this opportunity to shape the platform to include progressive issues important to the base before offering an endorsement and speech on her behalf at the DNC.

What he is doing is very important to many of the people Clinton policies brush over.

I know it seems he is hanging in there too long. He isn't damaging Clinton, he is getting younger people involved in the election which was a goal of the DNC this year, and he is shaping her platform tremendously by being there and dragging her closer to the middle from Centre-Right.

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Jun 6 2016 07:51am
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Bernie is taking this opportunity to shape the platform to include progressive issues important to the base before offering an endorsement and speech on her behalf at the DNC.


If she wins a diverse California she can say that she won all across the country, won the popular vote, and the delegate vote. Literally winning in every way possible. At that point her and the dnc don't need any of his lectures.
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Jun 6 2016 07:54am
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If she wins a diverse California she can say that she won all across the country, won the popular vote, and the delegate vote. Literally winning in every way possible. At that point her and the dnc don't need any of his lectures.


She didn't win in twenty states.

Ouch.

And the goal isn't winning the popular vote by 1 or 2 %, that is barely a win. She isn't even clearing 50% when considering the margin of error. That wouldn't even be enough to avoid a run off if there was a third person in a normal democracy.
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Jun 6 2016 07:59am
Quote (Beowulf @ 6 Jun 2016 08:51)
If she wins a diverse California she can say that she won all across the country, won the popular vote, and the delegate vote. Literally winning in every way possible. At that point her and the dnc don't need any of his lectures.


Even if she holds onto California after Bernie has been making a late surge, do you really think it was ever supposed to get to this point? Back in April 2015, would you have thought a self-identified socialist from Vermont would have won 20 states over Hillary Clinton?

You think it is just winning in every way possible? No setbacks? Michigan, etc? Everything has been good with Hillary Clinton? No bad? Just winning, winning?

She's had the nomination wrapped up since before she announced and mathematically since March 15th but it's clear that a sizable percentage of Democratic voters support Sanders' progressive agenda and vision.

At this point with DNC higher-ups considering firing DNC and all the rhetoric you've seen coming out of their leadership it is clear that they are considering how to bring in the Bernie crowd to support HRC and will probably make amends to some of their platform at the convention to do so.

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