and now israel getting rid of them.......

I was specifically referring to you in my post

No you didn't, I'm not a bigot nor anti-proudness (lol) nor american leftist or whatever shit you imagine. You aren't in my head and watch your poor language.
I am very-moderated left following european standards, eventually.
Hope it helps

Funny you mention that ignorance is bliss because it's very much true on a philosophical level. Being ignorant will not give you "bliss" but being able to ignore the "human condition" and it's tendency or likelihood to incur suffering/war/starvation/murder/ basically anything negative you can think of. If you are truly able to let all that go and never allow it to enter your being again one would say you have achieved "ananda" which in Sanskrit translates as "bliss attained".
This is because you come to the realization that you could never change the "human condition" itself. That's why in Eastern schools of philosophy such as Buddhism the goal is to detach yourself from this condition and remove the suffering you feel when you think these thoughts. This was famously portrayed with Buddha(Siddhartha Gautama) born into royalty and living inside castle walls until his teens before one day finally hearing the pleas of the starving outside the gate. He immediately renounced EVERYTHING and left the palace and sat at the base of a bodhi(Where the name Buddha is derived from) tree for what scholars argue was 7-49 days refusing to eat and basically tried to die. Yet the poorest of poor came and gave him / forced him to drink some water and eat some rice as he sat there. He realized the cycle of birth and death and how to "ease" suffering. He saw his true nature and that of all living beings.

To further expand on that most people think of "God realization" "Enlightenment" "Nirvana" "Samadhi" as some magical experience where you gain some miraculous power. No. You simply gain control over your mind and can come to the place of "no-thought" which most gurus/swami's/teachers say is "bliss" because you are no longer in that cycle you are "one" with existence. In Vedanta and a lot of other Eastern philosophies the highest plane of existence/ heavenly body is known as "Brahmaloka" "Pure-bliss-consciousness-eternal-uninterrupted". As my Swami would say...in the past and even now people work tirelessly to survive and that even more so was the case when beings like Jesus/Buddha lived. Being able to just "sit-down" and "not-think" after busting your ass from dawn to dusk was considered a "gift from God" and the only moment where you could connect with that. Now that "bliss" is only ONE thought away yet the great dilemma is that we are now so interconnected that it's so easy to become lost in our own ego and pursuit of personal pleasures.

Coming from someone who was raised Catholic and sort of thought there was a little more to the "mysteries of life" me learning about this subtle truth changed me profoundly because my heart tore open for the starving, the homeless, the diseased, the lonely. You eventually come to a point where you admit that you were a fool to think you could change the human condition or even a minute part of it. That doesn't mean you become "cold" and not help others. You just see it in an entirely different way.

I know I've derailed this topic again and again and I apologize for that. I just hope this gives some of you something to dwell on and something that maybe gives you a little bit of peace in a crazy world. Namaste.

Yet you consistently take the furthest progressive positions and are blatantly racist against white people. Literally the two things I said in my original post.

This is deep and I won’t be able to respond to it all. I agree and disagree with different aspects and thanks for the history lesson, pretty cool.

I think we can be aware of the human condition and the overall failure to make drastic changes to total suffering, as an individual. With that said, We might not be able to save “people” but we can help a “person”. I help in my local community and it sounds like you volunteer which is amazing. So I agree and disagree with my earlier statement ignorance is bliss. As you said, being aware to suffering is essential to accomplish that but simultaneously being able to move forward emotionally, relatively detached, in order to really do everything you can. Doing so still allows us to be empathetic, genuinely, while still living with the shit in this world.

I think if more people adopted an empathetic approach, maybe we could actually make progress to the human condition. Maybe it’s human genetics, maybe the digital age, conversations behind fake usernames, but empathy overall is just lacking. When I was younger I would scoff at being too emotionally connected or vulnerable, better to be right I thought. maybe it’s age, work, children, but it’s actually so much easier to argue and fight than it is to have a friendly conversation where everyone improves, and the latter being infinitely more valuable.

This post was edited by Bazi on Nov 2 2023 09:59am

most Americans are fairly normal, its the right wing MAGA chuds that post here that are the weirdos

most people everywhere are quite normal (while accepting cultural, social and religious differences). i.e. love thy self and thy neighbor, do good.

on that note, most people in the world think that the fact that 40% of the people killed by Israel are children is wrong. The number of Palestinian children killed in Gaza in the last three weeks has exceeded the annual number of children killed across the world’s conflict zones since 2019. While some people in the world (and this sub forum) make excuses for it, most reasonable people think this fact is unreasonable.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 2 2023 10:53am