Quote (InsaneBobb @ 16 Jun 2022 19:30)

Prove it. There are fewer guns held by law abiding citizens in Chicago than Phoenix Arizona per capita by far. Yet there are several times as many shootings per capita in Chicago. Yet Phoenix Arizona allows Constitutional Carry and has very few limits on what type of firearm can be purchased, outside of being compliant with the NFA (which should be repealed).

Do I disagree? Yes. The facts do not support your conclusion.



Funny how there's still gun violence and gun crime in Australia. I thought it worked?

Quote (Plaguefear @ 16 Jun 2022 02:32)

We have no school shootings, guns are almost exclusively used by serious criminals against their rivals.
No one cares if a gangster kills another gangster.
We had 16 mass shootings before the gun law changes and zero after it, how was it "trending down"?
We had one a week before the law change with 36 dead and it was done by a functioning imbecile.

Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 16 Jun 2022 02:42)

Thanks for proving my point. Yes take Australia.

We have on average 1 (ONE) gun shooting a year per 100k people.

Tell me how many US has? I can send you the official data if you dont know.

Do you think numbers lie? :)
Probably they do and science is the master mind behind it 🤷

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 16 Jun 2022 19:45)

Had 1 teacher been armed, Salvatore Ramos would not have been able to murder 19 children ages 5-10 over the course of AN HOUR.

Gun control led to the deaths of 19 children, and your solution is more gun control. What a wonderful world to live in. ;)

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 16 2022 07:42pm)

Who cares about mass shootings? Aren't you tired of these nonsensical talking points? The fact is that there HAVE been school shootings, stabbings, and other school murders in Australia since the buyback. They weren't considered "mass shootings" because fewer than 5 people died. As a point of fact, they also had to remove any and all gang-related gun crime from the statistics, because there HAVE been mass shootings, in SCHOOLS, in AUSTRALIA, since the buyback. They were classed as "gang violence" and do not hit the "mass shooting" statistic at all.

Violent crime of all sorts, including gun crime, is on the rise in Australia. Why? Well, your government locking down it's citizens for two years, throwing them in concentration camps, and preventing them from making a living might be related.

Also, I'd just like to point out that in the other thread, you stated clearly that you don't care about laws, you only value "free speech" even when that "free speech" involves heavily armed mobs threatening judges and their families. If you don't care about laws, why are you asking us to write stupid laws that do not work?

Oh, that's right. You support terrorism against your political opponents. That's easier to accomplish if your political opponents are unarmed. Got it. :)

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 16 2022 02:45am)

Had 1 teacher been armed, Salvatore Ramos would not have been able to murder 19 children ages 5-10 over the course of AN HOUR.

Gun control led to the deaths of 19 children, and your solution is more gun control. What a wonderful world to live in. ;)

Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 16 Jun 2022 02:50)

Yeah I agree. The lack on gun control led to the mass shooting. A 18 yo should not be able to buy 2 rifles :) Man I love how you keep giving me even better arguments XD

Hahaha and sure yeah arm the teachers and the students. Ahhhhh now everyone feels so so safe :D dumbo

Quote (Plaguefear @ 16 Jun 2022 02:51)

Link me a school shooting in australia since 1990, ill wait.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 16 2022 07:57pm)

I'm not saying you're braindead. I'm saying you are a hostile foreign actor seeking to influence the laws of a sovereign nation via propaganda and lies. Your nation has removed all gang related gun crime from it's gun crime statistics to attempt to hide it's own gun crime, reclassified "mass shootings" from 3+ people injured or killed to 5+ people killed in order to hide non-gang related mass shootings, and now, when gun control legislation (from 1990 btw) made it a felony for school staff to be armed and protect children, therefore children were targeted, you're blaming a lack of gun control?

There's a certain level of malicious intent clear in your post. As with Matt, stay in Australia. You can keep your concentration camps, lack of freedom of speech, and "only the rich and government and criminals can own guns". We're doing just fine. :)



You are actively promoting terrorism against judges in my nation. You're actively promoting authoritarian laws in my country. You are a hostile foreign actor in my nation's politics. And now you're asking me to do you a favor? Are you stupid, matt?

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 16 Jun 2022 19:42)

Who cares about mass shootings? Aren't you tired of these nonsensical talking points? The fact is that there HAVE been school shootings, stabbings, and other school murders in Australia since the buyback. They weren't considered "mass shootings" because fewer than 5 people died. As a point of fact, they also had to remove any and all gang-related gun crime from the statistics, because there HAVE been mass shootings, in SCHOOLS, in AUSTRALIA, since the buyback. They were classed as "gang violence" and do not hit the "mass shooting" statistic at all.

Violent crime of all sorts, including gun crime, is on the rise in Australia. Why? Well, your government locking down it's citizens for two years, throwing them in concentration camps, and preventing them from making a living might be related.

Also, I'd just like to point out that in the other thread, you stated clearly that you don't care about laws, you only value "free speech" even when that "free speech" involves heavily armed mobs threatening judges and their families. If you don't care about laws, why are you asking us to write stupid laws that do not work?

Oh, that's right. You support terrorism against your political opponents. That's easier to accomplish if your political opponents are unarmed. Got it. :)

Quote (Plaguefear @ 16 Jun 2022 19:51)

Link me a school shooting in australia since 1990, ill wait.