Really? Republicans don't support impeaching the leader of their party? I am SHOCKED.



Maxine Waters has the only egregious statement there IMO because that's harassment. I think you are conflating protesting with rioting and there is a difference.

Trump said "we gotta be strong", "we must make the weak GOP members be strong", "we must stop the steal, we cant let it happen" and then "lets go to the Capitol". Did he really intend to incite a coup attempt? I doubt it. But is was really sinister and dangerous rhetoric, and in hindsight, it's really no wonder that a certain fraction of his supporters in DC took it as encouragement for drastic action.

I dont think his actions that day rose quite to the level of impeachment, and I definitely dont think that he should be retroactively impeached after his term has already ended, but we nonetheless should not downplay the gravity of his actions on that day. His rhetoric was reckless, dangerous, norm-breaking and fueled by an undemocratic spirit. What he did was very bad. Not "Palpatine initiating order 66"-levels of bad like Democrats portray it, but still really bad.

The poll numbers suggest that the bulk of the Republican party, not just a loony fringe, still backs Trump on this issue. Do you think that 70-80% of the party are "extreme partisans who can go fuck themselves"?

I could say the exact same to you. Both events resulted in violence and deaths. You can't pick and choose when they are all very similar.

Definitely. We're hyper-polarized and I think about 60-70% of the electorate could be characterized as "extremely partisan."

I think that Trump has already been held accountable.

Obviously liberal fantasies of Trump's head on a pike aren't going to be met, but he has left office with historically low approval ratings have burned just about every bridge that can be burned.

I'm not convinced of that...especially since the House GOP leader just had a meeting with him to discuss long term strategy of taking the House back.

You're right!

What Trump said was kind of iffy, what those Dems said is clearly breaking the law.




/e Where my list? Ah, here it is...




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payers money a third time with Insurrectiongate.





But yeah, Trump is the bad guy for saying: "Let's go to Washington". :/


Too bad, that all won't fit on a T-Shirt.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jan 28 2021 07:31pm

The House members are accountable to their base, and the base likes Trump. Some bridges can't be burned, the House is directly accountable to their constituents, as Cheney is like finding out.

Imho, Cheney was trying to spearhead a last-ditch effort by Republican elites to "detrumpify" the party. Imho, it was a calculated risk that she took, since a figure like her wouldnt have had much of a political future in a trumpy GOP anyway.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 28 2021 07:21pm