fascinating how desperately you hold on to your strawmen even though i called you out on them multiple times. i have NEVER equated trump's attacks on the press to putin's or erdogan's for example, that is yet another ridiculous lie. i challenge you to provide proof for that claim, but we both know you can't - so you will probably dodge with a low effort excuse like 'not worth my time' or not address it at all.

your 'well, he's not as bad as those dictators, even though THE LEFT claims that' narrative is textbook moronic right apologetics. i'd issue another challenge but we both know that's another claim that, if at all, is only true for a tiny fraction of 'the left'.

also, to act like your 'dog humping its toy analogy' in regards to threats against journalists was merely a failed attempt to be funny seems ridiculously disingenuous considering you specifically addressed the distinction between something important and something you can just shrug off as whatever:
"if my dog humps his toy 3 times this week and 7 times next week it is an alarming and increasing trend to some, to others it's still a dog humping a toy tho."

This post was edited by fender on Dec 20 2018 05:39pm

You dumb.

Address that

it's plain wrong. has nothing to do with hyperbole to take threats against journalists seriously opposed to comparing them to the insignificance of a dog humping a toy. it's not hyperbole to regard the erosion of trust in independent media a concerning development.
the only ACTUAL hyperbole is the one you introduced with your hitler, putin & erdogan strawmen - in order to make trump look better.



now address that. so far my prediction of you just dodging it altogether has come true.

I addressed it a few posts back. It incites belly laughs. Can't u read?

Lol saying I'm trying to make trump look better. U just can't help urself. Its clear I'm anti hyperbole devoid of the topic being trump. But again, everyone is a cultist when u need them to be lol. Its blatant

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 20 2018 06:51pm

oh, so you're "anti hyperbole", you just introduce it with strawmen and then dodge when asked for proof. gotcha...

you don't want to make him look better, you just insist on pointing out that he's not as bad as putin (something no one actually claimed), that his attacks against free press amount to nothing (despite the rise of threats against journalists and the serious loss of trust in independent media), and that the lack of opposition to his attacks is just fine because he's being 'checked' - totally not an apologist's approach...

just another case of fender strawmanning my actual beliefs. i think the internet is responsible for both, and are also the reason we got trump. rather than trump being responsible for either.

you do that alot. just make up whatever argument you think the other person is making to make your own.

i think on a micro scale Trump is responsible for bad things happening to a few journalists, and i think he's sown mistrust in the MSM. but the overall trend of journalists under fire is due to the internet and so is the mistrust of media, on the macro scale. they started well before Trump's rise to power, so you can't argue it. you'll try tho.

that's the difference between you and me. i am allowed to have nuance and allowed diverse opinions. you're an NPC, so for you its either all trumps fault or nobody's fault. and ofc, orange man bad.

again, the point you are willfully incapable of understanding, i dont support trump, i didnt vote for him, ive MAYBE supported 1 in 10 policy desicions and even then have a gripe, and am a vocal trump opponent. and yet you pepper in the "trying to make trump look better" nonsense and expect to be taken seriously? you're a blatant liar when you do that and we all see it. you show time and again, with me, that you're just a biased hack. watching you post at me like you do the ride or die trump supporters shows your inability to adapt. people might think you have half a point when you're posting at amboo, black, excellence, etc. but when you talk to me you get exposed, you're a joke and we all know it. you have one trick and no one wants to ride you.

now please make a strawman laden post about how im saying everything trump is doing is ok and how im trying to make him look better so you can exemplify how unadaptable and uncreative you are. you're just not on a level to handle someone who's not a far right winger. the day i started picking on you is the day you got exposed.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 21 2018 08:17am

that's pretty ironic coming from someone so desperately trying to force his strawmen into this conversation, and also outright suggesting it's not even a big deal. remember what your direct reply to the rising threats against journalists was? let me help you out:

"if my dog humps his toy 3 times this week and 7 times next week it is an alarming and increasing trend to some, to others it's still a dog humping a toy tho."

your apologetic rhetoric could not be more obvious, and those posts won't go away for a while - your cringeworthily unoriginal NPC memes and desperate deflections can't make them disappear either...

just because YOU are too unsophisticated to distinguish between my claim that on THIS issue you're clearly trying to make trump look better, and an imaginary claim that you always did that, doesn't mean it's true. you will find as much proof for that as for your lie about my alleged equation of trump's and putin's treatment of the press, another point you completely dodged ever since i challenged you to provide proof for that moronic claim. you're basically doing EXACTLY what you accuse me of and you hilariously don't even realise it.
you're upset about things i never said or even suggested, and argue against points that no one ever made. you're about as smart as exshillence, endlesscry, or bi-ghot, but unlike them you think you're actually making sense or coherent arguments, which is incredibly amusing to me...