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Jul 27 2018 01:08pm
I'm still amused at the point thesnipa is trying to make: "roseanne isn't anti black racist, she's anti muslim racist!"

Bahahaha
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Jul 27 2018 01:20pm
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I'm still amused at the point thesnipa is trying to make: "roseanne isn't anti black racist, she's anti muslim racist!"

Bahahaha


youre slandering what i said, because you still can't read. i've said many times in this thread roseanne IS anti-black racist. i've said the impact of her statement is anti-black racism. but that her intent seems to have been not anti-black racism, rather a shittily made joke to attack an Obama official, she doesn't like Obama or any of his officials, partialy due to anti-black racism. and that her pivot, which is likely a lie, is anti-muslim racism.

you truly do seem to be an unintelligent person. not only are you too stupid to even follow what im saying, but it's now amusing you? good lord.

you're essentially saying that none of this context matters because "hur dur racism bad" and you assume a racist person is always acting with racism as a motivation. this is silly. you may also be delusional enough to think that all racists hate all races, or all races equally. because your mind can't handle nuance.

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Jul 27 2018 01:44pm
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youre slandering what i said, because you still can't read. i've said many times in this thread roseanne IS anti-black racist. i've said the impact of her statement is anti-black racism. but that her intent seems to have been not anti-black racism, rather a shittily made joke to attack an Obama official, she doesn't like Obama or any of his officials, partialy due to anti-black racism. and that her pivot, which is likely a lie, is anti-muslim racism.

you truly do seem to be an unintelligent person. not only are you too stupid to even follow what im saying, but it's now amusing you? good lord.

you're essentially saying that none of this context matters because "hur dur racism bad" and you assume a racist person is always acting with racism as a motivation. this is silly. you may also be delusional enough to think that all racists hate all races, or all races equally. because your mind can't handle nuance.


I'm intelligent enough to know you are going out of your way to try to defend Roseanne's VJ tweet (try to say you're not again, it'll only amuse me), and yes, my mind can't handle the 'nuance' between anti-black and anti-muslim racism apparently, it's literally all the same to me.

so, let me get this straight again, since you're such an intellectual and i'm unintelligent to you; you call roseanne a racist, but then say her intent was not racism in the VJ tweet? like, L O L

racism is racism...
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Jul 27 2018 01:54pm
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I'm intelligent enough to know you are going out of your way to try to defend Roseanne's VJ tweet (try to say you're not again, it'll only amuse me), and yes, my mind can't handle the 'nuance' between anti-black and anti-muslim racism apparently, it's literally all the same to me.

so, let me get this straight again, since you're such an intellectual and i'm unintelligent to you; you call roseanne a racist, but then say her intent was not racism in the VJ tweet? like, L O L

racism is racism...


following this same logic it's literally impossible for a racist to ever not be racist. according to you people can't change. we aren't defined by out pasts, we live in the present. you should watch american history X, it might blow your mind.

yes i am saying that it's possible for a racist person to not be motivated by racism 24-7-365. people are more nuanced in their motivations than your "all racism is the same" brain head seem capable of. i know people who are anti-black but have no problems with muslims, or mexicans. or a myriad of other complicated relationships with race. we have a large population of Hmong people near me, and some people dislike them but still are ok with other asians. the world is a big place, try getting out there sometime. watching you express your "anyone who does something bad is a racist bigot" loony lefty act on this topic has been the real amusement.

what you missed, because i omitted it to let you blather on like a doofus, is that im not going out of my way to defend roseanne. i'm taking care to understand the context and motivations of racists so that i can better combat them. stupid people who just yell "RACISM OH MY GOD EVERYONE LOOK HE DID A RACISM" in all situations kill discourse and are a discredit to people of color. you're not an ally to people of color, you're a hindrance. i've spent my life defending people of color, for nearly a decade professionally i worked on defending people and combatting racism. while you were simplying the world to match a narrative that's "woke". children are often amused by their own ignorance, i'm glad you've not disappointed.

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Jul 27 2018 02:08pm
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following this same logic it's literally impossible for a racist to ever not be racist. according to you people can't change. we aren't defined by out pasts, we live in the present. you should watch american history X, it might blow your mind.

yes i am saying that it's possible for a racist person to not be motivated by racism 24-7-365. people are more nuanced in their motivations than your "all racism is the same" brain head seem capable of. i know people who are anti-black but have no problems with muslims, or mexicans. or a myriad of other complicated relationships with race. we have a large population of Hmong people near me, and some people dislike them but still are ok with other asians. the world is a big place, try getting out there sometime. watching you express your "anyone who does something bad is a racist bigot" loony lefty act on this topic has been the real amusement.

what you missed, because i omitted it to let you blather on like a doofus, is that im not going out of my way to defend roseanne. i'm taking care to understand the context and motivations of racists so that i can better combat them. stupid people who just yell "RACISM OH MY GOD EVERYONE LOOK HE DID A RACISM" in all situations kill discourse and are a discredit to people of color. you're not an ally to people of color, you're a hindrance. i've spent my life defending people of color, for nearly a decade professionally i worked on defending people and combatting racism. while you were simplying the world to match a narrative that's "woke". children are often amused by their own ignorance, i'm glad you've not disappointed.


that's great and all, just stop denying that you're giving her the benefit of the doubt, because that's exactly what you're doing when you say stuff like "yes i am saying that it's possible for a racist person to not be motivated by racism 24-7-365" ... it's asinine

I live in the greater area of one of the biggest Somali populations in the United States and I work along side them with no complaints, but others don't share my view and there are a lot of people around me that have a racist animus towards them, so don't give me this holier than thou B.S. about "you're a hindrance"
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Jul 27 2018 02:15pm
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that's great and all, just stop denying that you're giving her the benefit of the doubt, because that's exactly what you're doing when you say stuff like "yes i am saying that it's possible for a racist person to not be motivated by racism 24-7-365" ... it's asinine

I live in the greater area of one of the biggest Somali populations in the United States and I work along side them with no complaints, but others don't share my view and there are a lot of people around me that have a racist animus towards them, so don't give me this holier than thou B.S. about "you're a hindrance"


Racism towards any race is a spectrum within us all. we're all a bit racist towards every race, even our own. we have preconceived notions that we can't consciously control. this is the basis for white privilege as a theory. but we're not motivated in real time by these in literally every action of our life. which is the only way to rectify what you're claiming. what im suggesting in reality is that this is one of the few situations in Roseanne's life where she's not consciously being anti-black, and likely only because she didn't know she was black. if Roseanne DID know VJ was black she'd hate her more in that moment, but might not have tweeted what she did. It's an odd scenario in which a racist can actually be racist on accident. the oddity of that scenario is the reason im diving into the context, not to bend over backwards to defend a racist that i hate and think should be punished and run out of hollywood. Odd cases of irony like this are noteworthy, and humorous. people not conforming to your one size fits all small minded ideas of what racism is that neither furthers the people affected by racism nor convinces others to change their minds isn't. you are a hindrance, although don't take that personally, most people are just like you. small thinkers. its the reason the world is the way it is.

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Jul 27 2018 06:03pm
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Racism towards any race is a spectrum within us all. we're all a bit racist towards every race, even our own. we havepreconceived notions that we can't consciously control. this is the basis for white privilege as a theory. but we're not motivated in real time by these in literally every action of our life. which is the only way to rectify what you're claiming. what im suggesting in reality is that this is one of the few situations in Roseanne's life where she's not consciously being anti-black, and likely only because she didn't know she was black. if Roseanne DID know VJ was black she'd hate her more in that moment, but might not have tweeted what she did. It's an odd scenario in which a racist can actually be racist on accident. the oddity of that scenario is the reason im diving into the context, not to bend over backwards to defend a racist that i hate and think should be punished and run out of hollywood. Odd cases of irony like this are noteworthy, and humorous. people not conforming to your one size fits all small minded ideas of what racism is that neither furthers the people affected by racism nor convinces others to change their minds isn't. you are a hindrance, although don't take that personally, most people are just like you. small thinkers. its the reason the world is the way it is.


hmm. So, by your logic, if a guy masturbates to porn that features whites/asians/latinas but not black girls, then that distinction places him somewhere in the "racism spectrum"? (asking for a friend)

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Jul 27 2018 06:26pm
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Racism towards any race is a spectrum within us all. we're all a bit racist towards every race, even our own. we have preconceived notions that we can't consciously control. this is the basis for white privilege as a theory. but we're not motivated in real time by these in literally every action of our life. which is the only way to rectify what you're claiming. what im suggesting in reality is that this is one of the few situations in Roseanne's life where she's not consciously being anti-black, and likely only because she didn't know she was black. if Roseanne DID know VJ was black she'd hate her more in that moment, but might not have tweeted what she did. It's an odd scenario in which a racist can actually be racist on accident. the oddity of that scenario is the reason im diving into the context, not to bend over backwards to defend a racist that i hate and think should be punished and run out of hollywood. Odd cases of irony like this are noteworthy, and humorous. people not conforming to your one size fits all small minded ideas of what racism is that neither furthers the people affected by racism nor convinces others to change their minds isn't. you are a hindrance, although don't take that personally, most people are just like you. small thinkers. its the reason the world is the way it is.


Hey, great point. However, pretty irrelevant since nobody cares if you're a racist unless you're white. Other races are free to say things like "kill all white people" and they're praised for being empowered free-thinkers. But white people can't even dream of saying anything remotely negative about any other race, even as a joke. In fact, they're expected to willingly give up their country, heritage, and money to other races, just because.

Really makes you think.



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Jul 27 2018 07:20pm
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Hey, great point. However, pretty irrelevant since nobody cares if you're a racist unless you're white. Other races are free to say things like "kill all white people" and they're praised for being empowered free-thinkers. But white people can't even dream of saying anything remotely negative about any other race, even as a joke. In fact, they're expected to willingly give up their country, heritage, and money to other races, just because.

Really makes you think.

https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/689991/7bac3a84e0/emoji-thinking-3d-model-low-poly-max-obj-3ds-fbx.jpg


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Jul 27 2018 09:40pm
Quote (EA7 @ Jul 27 2018 07:26pm)
Hey, great point. However, pretty irrelevant since nobody cares if you're a racist unless you're white. Other races are free to say things like "kill all white people" and they're praised for being empowered free-thinkers. But white people can't even dream of saying anything remotely negative about any other race, even as a joke. In fact, they're expected to willingly give up their country, heritage, and money to other races, just because.

Really makes you think.

https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/689991/7bac3a84e0/emoji-thinking-3d-model-low-poly-max-obj-3ds-fbx.jpg


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