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Nov 1 2016 07:39pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 1 2016 03:10pm)
No, you're just stupid.

Force = mass * acceleration.
Momentum = mass * velocity.

You seem to be under some stupid impression that force means momentum. An accelerating hand and a constant velocity hand striking someone in the face are both capable of inflicting pain. The negative acceleration of the hand after it hits is a force applied to the hand, and a positive acceleration to the face is also a force.

Tell me about arguing points, when you can't keep up with basic physics or answer simple questions, and then resort to saying "kids will be kids" while talking about hitting me in the face. You're a walking contradiction.


First, you argue like a child. Did you just not call me stupid twice - I didn't insult you - so keep your monkey butt raged comments and shit flinging to a minimum if you have any level of desceny and respect which may be to much for someone like you.

secondly your concept of momentum being different from force if the acceleration is different is clearly wrong and displays a juvinile level of understanding

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How is force related to momentum?

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Momentum measures the 'motion content' of an object, and is based on the product of an object's mass and velocity. Momentum doubles, for example, when velocity doubles. Similarly, if two objects are moving with the same velocity, one with twice the mass of the other also has twice the momentum.

Force, on the other hand, is the push or pull that is applied to an object to CHANGE its momentum. Newton's second law of motion defines force as the product of mass times ACCELERATION (vs. velocity). Since acceleration is the change in velocity divided by time, you can connect the two concepts with the following relationship:

force = mass x (velocity / time) = (mass x velocity) / time = momentum / time

Multiplying both sides of this equation by time:

force x time = momentum

To answer your original question, then, the difference between force and momentum is time. Knowing the amount of force and the length of time that force is applied to an object will tell you the resulting change in its momentum

This post was edited by card_sultan on Nov 1 2016 07:41pm
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Nov 1 2016 07:49pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 1 2016 05:39pm)
First, you argue like a child. Did you just not call me stupid twice - I didn't insult you - so keep your monkey butt raged comments and shit flinging to a minimum if you have any level of descent and respect which may be to much for someone like you.

secondly your concept of momentum being different from force if the acceleration is different is clearly wrong and displays a juvinile level of understanding

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How is force related to momentum?

Answer

Momentum measures the 'motion content' of an object, and is based on the product of an object's mass and velocity. Momentum doubles, for example, when velocity doubles. Similarly, if two objects are moving with the same velocity, one with twice the mass of the other also has twice the momentum.

Force, on the other hand, is the push or pull that is applied to an object to CHANGE its momentum. Newton's second law of motion defines force as the product of mass times ACCELERATION (vs. velocity). Since acceleration is the change in velocity divided by time, you can connect the two concepts with the following relationship:

force = mass x (velocity / time) = (mass x velocity) / time = momentum / time

Multiplying both sides of this equation by time:

force x time = momentum

To answer your original question, then, the difference between force and momentum is time. Knowing the amount of force and the length of time that force is applied to an object will tell you the resulting change in its momentum

now that's an extremely redundant way of saying mass*velocity = momentum

what you are looking for is the change of momentum which is often called impulse
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Nov 1 2016 08:06pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 1 2016 08:39pm)
First, you argue like a child. Did you just not call me stupid twice - I didn't insult you - so keep your monkey butt raged comments and shit flinging to a minimum if you have any level of desceny and respect which may be to much for someone like you.

secondly your concept of momentum being different from force if the acceleration is different is clearly wrong and displays a juvinile level of understanding

Question

How is force related to momentum?

Answer

Momentum measures the 'motion content' of an object, and is based on the product of an object's mass and velocity. Momentum doubles, for example, when velocity doubles. Similarly, if two objects are moving with the same velocity, one with twice the mass of the other also has twice the momentum.

Force, on the other hand, is the push or pull that is applied to an object to CHANGE its momentum. Newton's second law of motion defines force as the product of mass times ACCELERATION (vs. velocity). Since acceleration is the change in velocity divided by time, you can connect the two concepts with the following relationship:

force = mass x (velocity / time) = (mass x velocity) / time = momentum / time

Multiplying both sides of this equation by time:

force x time = momentum

To answer your original question, then, the difference between force and momentum is time. Knowing the amount of force and the length of time that force is applied to an object will tell you the resulting change in its momentum


No, the difference between force and momentum is acceleration. Both momentum and force involve movement. Only force involves changing of the movement (either slowing or speeding - both known in physics as "acceleration").
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Nov 1 2016 08:40pm
no, the difference between force and momentum is time
Quote (Santara @ Nov 1 2016 04:06pm)
No, the difference between force and momentum is acceleration. Both momentum and force involve movement. Only force involves changing of the movement (either slowing or speeding - both known in physics as "acceleration").


no, the difference between force and momentum is time - what your saying is the time between going 40mph - a 20 mph decrease in speed multiplied by it's mass = force, but not 40mph + zero increase increase in acceleration = no force

acceleration = any velocity include a change of zero, increase or decrease in speed.

multiple that by time and you have momentum.


What your saying is zero is not a number - and its actually the most important number, obviously since you dont seem to understand the concept of zero.

"Zero is not "nothing", zero is also not the absence of value, zero is a value.

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no, the difference between force and momentum is time

no, the difference between force and momentum is time - what your saying is the time between going 40mph - a 20 mph decrease in speed multiplied by it's mass = force, but not 40mph + zero increase increase in acceleration = no force

acceleration = any velocity include a change of zero, increase or decrease in speed.

multiple that by time and you have momentum.


What your saying is zero is not a number - and its actually the most important number, obviously since you dont seem to understand the concept of zero.

"Zero is not "nothing", zero is also not the absence of value, zero is a value.


Um, hello? Velocity has a time component in it. You know, things like meters per second. Miles per hour. Derp. Acceleration is a change in the rate per unit of time.
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Nov 1 2016 09:10pm
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Um, hello? Velocity has a time component in it. You know, things like meters per second. Miles per hour. Derp. Acceleration is a change in the rate per unit of time.


and a change of zero velocity is a change because zero is value - your really cant understand that you think zero = nothing but it is a value, really you fail at understanding math and English and physics, pretty much everything.

You should really look up on google what a zero means.

"Zero is not "nothing", zero is also not the absence of value, zero is a value."

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Nov 1 2016 09:22pm
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and a change of zero velocity is a change because zero is value - your really cant understand that you think zero = nothing but it is a value, really you fail at understanding math and English and physics, pretty much everything.

You should really look up on google what a zero means.

"Zero is not "nothing", zero is also not the absence of value, zero is a value."


I don't know why you're harping on about the number zero, when you fabricated a position for me to then assail. (We call that straw manning.) I addressed your lack of a point with a cold, hard fact. Deal with it.

Oh, I see what you're harping on. You said something my eyes glazed over when I saw the stupidity and just tuned it out. To wit:

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acceleration = any velocity include a change of zero, increase or decrease in speed.


A change in velocity of zero is NOT acceleration.

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Nov 1 2016 09:42pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 1 2016 10:22pm)
I don't know why you're harping on about the number zero, when you fabricated a position for me to then assail. (We call that straw manning.) I addressed your lack of a point with a cold, hard fact. Deal with it.

Oh, I see what you're harping on. You said something my eyes glazed over when I saw the stupidity and just tuned it out. To wit:



A change in velocity of zero is NOT acceleration.


anything goes when you're physics are based off an infinite plane infinitely flying upwards.
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Nov 1 2016 09:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 1 2016 05:22pm)
I don't know why you're harping on about the number zero, when you fabricated a position for me to then assail. (We call that straw manning.) I addressed your lack of a point with a cold, hard fact. Deal with it.

Oh, I see what you're harping on. You said something my eyes glazed over when I saw the stupidity and just tuned it out. To wit:



A change in velocity of zero is NOT acceleration.


zero is a value, but I understand that you have 0 understanding of anything.

an object that experiences a change of 0 velocity, is still experiencing acceleration in the physical sense, you're stuck on the English understanding of that word and will not admit that you're an idiot

so troll more if you want, your only embarrassing yourself.

acceleration in Science Expand
acceleration (āk-sěl'ə-rā'shən)
The rate of change of the velocity of a moving body. An increase in the magnitude of the velocity of a moving body (an increase in speed) is called a positive acceleration; a decrease in speed is called a negative acceleration. Acceleration, like velocity, is a vector quantity, so any change in the direction of a moving body is also an acceleration. A moving body that follows a curved path, even when its speed remains constant, is undergoing acceleration.

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zero is a value, but I understand that you have 0 understanding of anything.

an object that experiences a change of 0 velocity, is still experiencing acceleration in the physical sense, you're stuck on the English understanding of that word and will not admit that you're an idiot

so troll more if you want, your only embarrassing yourself.

acceleration in Science Expand
acceleration (āk-sěl'ə-rā'shən)
The rate of change of the velocity of a moving body. An increase in the magnitude of the velocity of a moving body (an increase in speed) is called a positive acceleration; a decrease in speed is called a negative acceleration. Acceleration, like velocity, is a vector quantity, so any change in the direction of a moving body is also an acceleration. A moving body that follows a curved path, even when its speed remains constant, is undergoing acceleration.


velocity =/= speed
read where it says 'curved path' meaning change of direction, velocity is a vector.
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