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Apr 26 2011 03:05pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 26 Apr 2011 22:03)
Since when does rage have to be justified to occur ?

People go into killing rages over minor traffic snafu's . Some people have the emotional well being to handle the fight/flight response and some don't . Toss in a little alcohol and anything is possible .


All I'm saying is that some fits of rage are more easily understandable than others. This one was not one of those, and those girls should be dealt with.
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Apr 26 2011 03:06pm
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A mans perception of the adequacy of his penis is not based on it's comparative size to peers or even feedback from his lovers or accepted norms but very often on first impressions made in childhood .

Most likely as an adolescent you saw a male adult relative urinating and the perspective of his vs. yours , adult vs. adolescent , became implanted in your subconscious .


My penis is fine in size. It's just awkward standing shoulder to shoulder peeing.
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Apr 26 2011 03:24pm
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All I'm saying is that some fits of rage are more easily understandable than others. This one was not one of those, and those girls should be dealt with.


They are being dealt with by the authorities but they should not be overly punished because of social agenda's .
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Apr 26 2011 03:42pm
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They are being dealt with by the authorities but they should not be overly punished because of social agenda's .


I'd say 'infllicting unnecessary and excessive violence on a fellow citizen' is enough reason for a fair amount punishment/angermanagment, regardless of "social agenda's".
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Apr 26 2011 03:47pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 05:42pm)
I'd say 'infllicting unnecessary and excessive violence on a fellow citizen' is enough reason for a fair amount punishment/angermanagment, regardless of "social agenda's".


...which is why we have different categories for crimes like this from misdemeanor assault to aggravated battery . The prosecutors will decide what level of crime is appropriate for the offense and the 2 girls will be tried in a court of law .
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Apr 26 2011 03:48pm
If the girls were motivated by the fact that the woman they beat was transgendered and that motivation can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, they definitely deserve a longer sentence. Transgendered people are among the most targeted members of society, and iirc, the chance of a transgendered woman's life ending in homicide is somewhere around 50%. It's fucking ridiculous, and every measure that can be taken to ensure their safety should be taken. It's wrong for any segment of society to be in that much danger just living their fucking lives.
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Apr 26 2011 03:50pm
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If the girls were motivated by the fact that the woman they beat was transgendered and that motivation can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, they definitely deserve a longer sentence.  Transgendered people are among the most targeted members of society, and iirc, the chance of a transgendered woman's life ending in homicide is somewhere around 50%.  It's fucking ridiculous, and every measure that can be taken to ensure their safety should be taken.  It's wrong for any segment of society to be in that much danger just living their fucking lives.


Do you have a source on that, because that seems ludicrously high. Not saying it isn't true, because I have no idea about actual figures, but 50% seriously?
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Apr 26 2011 03:57pm
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Do you have a source on that, because that seems ludicrously high. Not saying it isn't true, because I have no idea about actual figures, but 50% seriously?


That's why I said iirc, tbh. Let me go to the Googles.

http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2008/08/24/are-transgender-people-over-a-thousand-times-more-likely-to-be-murdered-than-cisgender/

Ah, apparently (according to a site that has its fair share of bias, admittedly, but this math looks legit) it's "Only" about 1/12, roughly 10x the chances for the average member of the population. So, y'know, still pretty exceptionally shitty but not quite as dramatically shitty as I remembered.
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Apr 26 2011 06:04pm
Quote (laggbagg1 @ Apr 26 2011 12:49pm)
Ye fair anoth i jumped in head first with that one, people that cant help being born like that, i have sympathy for. obviously there is no way to help it.


There is a way to help it, which is society giving them more tolerance, allowing for them to make their own decision about what their gender is, and advocating for them when needed.
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Apr 26 2011 06:08pm
How did this thread get 17 pages?

Like was there legit discussion or constant trolling?
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