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Jun 14 2023 05:18am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 13 2023 11:43pm)
Uh champ the nazi party were killing each other every day.


ya like how many? all you argument has is the demoncrotch are better at being fascists than the nazis were

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Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Jun 13 2023 09:51pm)
What's the process? Who's approval is required? Instituting a process undermines his authority. He is granted this vast authority by design, and it ought not be restricted by bureaucratic nonsense. He has unilateral authority, it is done at his sole discretion. To challenge his ability challenges the authority granted to him in the Constitution. We don't need a nation where the president has to beg the CIA, FBI, State Department or Pentagon for their approval to declassify material. If such a system existed, state actors could delay, restrict, and bog down his declassification ability. I don't like the idea of the head of the CIA determining what can be communicated to the American people (even though it is how we've lived for the past 70 years)



Why? Because some Pentagon or State Department ghoul got upset that he still had some documents? Because he wasn't keen on cooperating with a DoJ clearly out to get him? To bog a man down in the tedium of bureaucracy has been the fashion in which unelected official seek to undermine the viability of democratically elected leaders. Hell, they not only meddle with viability, after he was elected they intentionally lied to him in an effort to undermine his policy objectives.


When someone's out to get you its MORE important to be cooperative, not less.

a black guy with a combative cop doesnt make the situation better by being difficult and resisting.
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Triggered CNN Anchor Screams At Control Room To Cut Trump Live Feed 😂



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Jun 14 2023 07:16am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Jun 13 2023 10:42pm)
People misspeaking and quotes taken out of context are nothing new to the criminal justice system.

It sucks because there's not a lot to actually discuss about it. I think that's why people talk about the double standard and political machinations, since the case itself is pretty debatable. On one hand, he may not be guilty. On the other, his being President might make all the charges non-applicable. It's not a solid case on a variety of levels.

I personally think the more interesting conversation is how the FBI, CIA, DoJ and Pentagon are so undeniably in cahoots to take him down. It truly has been a scenario of "There's the man, now find the crime" since day one. I'm shocked after seven years this is all they have. He's a lot cleaner than I would have believed when I voted for him in 2016.


Trump has been the target of any number of false allegations and conspiracies. A number of the posters in this thread were credulous enough to fall for each of them in turn, and we all think less of their intelligence for it. But isn't that all the more reason why you shouldn't intentionally walk into ridiculous situations like this?

Let's assume that his argument is that he unilaterally declassified these documents by taking them to Mar-a-Lago and therefore had no intention of returning them. Why not simply refuse to hand over the documents with that as his stated reason? You'd get the same publicity and response from the DOJ without having lied to the federal government.
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Jun 14 2023 08:02am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jun 13 2023 10:34pm)
Of course not, as everyone knows fascists are very lax when it comes to the law :thumbsup:

What should I read? Any recommendations? What was the last book you read?


Last Book?
The Deep Places--Ross Douthat
Its about limits of modern medicine.. Has nothing to do with the subject.
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Jun 14 2023 08:29am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 14 2023 11:02am)
Last Book?
The Deep Places--Ross Douthat
Its about limits of modern medicine.. Has nothing to do with the subject.


Bro you can't even read a full post no way you read a full book, I call shenanigans.
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Jun 14 2023 08:49am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 14 2023 08:16am)
Trump has been the target of any number of false allegations and conspiracies. A number of the posters in this thread were credulous enough to fall for each of them in turn, and we all think less of their intelligence for it. But isn't that all the more reason why you shouldn't intentionally walk into ridiculous situations like this?

Let's assume that his argument is that he unilaterally declassified these documents by taking them to Mar-a-Lago and therefore had no intention of returning them. Why not simply refuse to hand over the documents with that as his stated reason? You'd get the same publicity and response from the DOJ without having lied to the federal government.


the fact that some people (not saying you) bought the line of "a potus can declassify anything with just their mind" is shameful. and its the same people who whine about deepstate shenanigans. the specific process fully fleshed out need to be codified asap just to shut that kind of nonsense up.
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Jun 14 2023 09:00am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jun 14 2023 07:29am)
Bro you can't even read a full post no way you read a full book, I call shenanigans.


Wut? your such a troll
your other points aren't even worth responding to.
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Jun 14 2023 09:07am
Quote (bogie160 @ 14 Jun 2023 15:16)
Trump has been the target of any number of false allegations and conspiracies. A number of the posters in this thread were credulous enough to fall for each of them in turn, and we all think less of their intelligence for it. But isn't that all the more reason why you shouldn't intentionally walk into ridiculous situations like this?

Let's assume that his argument is that he unilaterally declassified these documents by taking them to Mar-a-Lago and therefore had no intention of returning them. Why not simply refuse to hand over the documents with that as his stated reason? You'd get the same publicity and response from the DOJ without having lied to the federal government.


Did he declassify the documents he stole while he was President ? Need some proof eventually, not sure if a "witness" would be enough :
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/what-documents-can-a-president-declassify-and-how-does-it-work/3164522/

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Jun 14 2023 09:14am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 14 2023 12:00pm)
Wut? your such a troll
your other points aren't even worth responding to.


Okay, so why was my question about what you read last worth responding to...? :rofl:
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