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Oct 12 2020 08:59am
Quote (Cannabist @ Oct 12 2020 09:57am)
So social distancing is pointless? Are you just cherry picking at this point?


mask wearing and social distancing are about risk reduction, not elimination.

i think im done engaging in you overthinking a humorous meme given that you dont seem to understand basic facts.
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Oct 12 2020 09:04am
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mask wearing and social distancing are about risk reduction, not elimination.

i think im done engaging in you overthinking a humorous meme given that you dont seem to understand basic facts.


Of course this will never be eliminated. All the more reason to work towards herd immunity now instead of acting like masks and lockdowns will make this problem magically disappear.
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Oct 12 2020 09:09am
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Of course this will never be eliminated. All the more reason to work towards herd immunity now instead of acting like masks and lockdowns will make this problem magically disappear.


herd immunity until it mutates and herd immunity is gone. this isn't chicken pox, it's not get it once then you're safe for life. where are u getting covid info from lol
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2020 10:09am)
herd immunity until it mutates and herd immunity is gone. this isn't chicken pox, it's not get it once then you're safe for life. where are u getting covid info from lol


The flu isn't like that either but somehow civilization survives every flu season.
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Oct 12 2020 09:10am
I think the point he was trying to make is the following: "if someone is scared of getting covid, it is his personal responsibility to self-isolate in his home and never set a foot outside again until we have a vaccine or herd immunity - and if he does step outside, then that was his personal choice and he has no one else but himself to blame if he catches covid". Which of course is a fucking stupid and selfish opinion.
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Oct 12 2020 09:12am
Quote (Cannabist @ Oct 12 2020 10:04am)
Of course this will never be eliminated. All the more reason to work towards herd immunity now instead of acting like masks and lockdowns will make this problem magically disappear.


Even conservative estimates put the herd immunity approach at 2 million dead, but that's a low number since it doesn't account for the deaths due to medical infrastructure being saturated.

Masks, contact tracing, and social distancing make lockdowns unnecessary if implemented properly (see Japan, South Korea).

In the United States it's been framed as herd immunity vs lockdowns because the current administration has totally botched the response. In reality if we had implemented social distancing early, implemented contact tracing, had mandatory mask orders, and several other things we probably could have avoided locking down in all but the most frequently traveled areas (NYC was always fucked, literally nothing could have been done there)
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Oct 12 2020 09:14am
Quote (Cannabist @ Oct 12 2020 10:10am)
The flu isn't like that either but somehow civilization survives every flu season.


you're moving the goal posts every post while shitposting bad info.

covid isn't just a flu, and i never said it would end civilization.

done with you strawmanning hack. you sound like an idiot. keep wearing no mask, and get closer than 6 feet to every member of your family for all i care. the gene pool needs a cleaning anyways.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 12 2020 10:10am)
I think the point he was trying to make is the following: "if someone is scared of getting covid, it is his personal responsibility to self-isolate in his home and never set a foot outside again until we have a vaccine or herd immunity - and if he does step outside, then that was his personal choice and he has no one else but himself to blame if he catches covid". Which of course is a fucking stupid and selfish opinion.


Social distancing?

People at high risk of death should be provided the means to quarantine. Most people are not at high risk of death.
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Oct 12 2020 09:18am
Quote (Cannabist @ Oct 12 2020 10:14am)
Social distancing?

People at high risk of death should be provided the means to quarantine. Most people are not at high risk of death.


Can you expand on what you mean by "the means to quarantine"?

Like, should we be giving them food, supplies, and paying their rent and wage while they're quarantined?
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Oct 12 2020 09:24am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 12 2020 10:18am)
Can you expand on what you mean by "the means to quarantine"?

Like, should we be giving them food, supplies, and paying their rent and wage while they're quarantined?


If they're at risk and don't have the means, then yes.
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