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Jan 23 2023 03:39am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 23 Jan 2023 09:38)
NASA scientist James Hansen, the guy who testified before the US Senate in 1988, was one of the pioneers of climate modeling. He was among the authors of the first GISS model, his Science article from 1981 was among the first articles predicting anthropogenic global warming which resonated widely. In 1988, the year of his Senate testimony, he published the second generation of the GISS model which led to the first estimate in the change of mean surface temperature based on various scenarios.

All of this stuff, his models, methods and the presentation of climate change via a range of different scenarios, became the foundation for the work of the UN's IPCC, which is nowadays considered the gold standard and leading authority for the current state of climate change research - and as the 2023 Science article I just linked shows, the models of Hansen (and subsequent models by other scientists which built on his work) were (slightly) outperformed by the models developed concurrently but independently by ExxonMobil scientists.


there's a LOT of gymnastics, a lot of effort to put a partisan spin on it, between that and "more technically sound than what the UN produced" though... xD
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Jan 23 2023 11:40am
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there's a LOT of gymnastics, a lot of effort to put a partisan spin on it, between that and "more technically sound than what the UN produced" though... xD


Lot of effort? It took me around 5 seconds to churn out my initial post, it was you who turned things into an annoying, tedious back and forth with your usual "charm". :rolleyes:


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Jan 23 2023 12:03pm
Quote (MyEnemy @ 22 Jan 2023 19:57)
This is Joseph Stalin, a liberal communist. He murdered millions of people. He has the exact same opinions and views as every single democrat in the USA. Is that true?

https://i.imgur.com/UlXQgCk.png


a "liberal communist" ? seek help wofwof
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Jan 23 2023 01:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 23 Jan 2023 18:40)
Lot of effort? It took me around 5 seconds to churn out my initial post, it was you who turned things into an annoying, tedious back and forth with your usual "charm". :rolleyes:


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i don't mean your initial post. i mean retroactively trying to mental gymnastic it into something that even remotely makes sense, when it is so obviously just a nod to your climate change denying allies in this forum, lol.
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Jan 23 2023 04:39pm
Quote (fender @ 23 Jan 2023 20:27)
i don't mean your initial post. i mean retroactively trying to mental gymnastic it into something that even remotely makes sense, when it is so obviously just a nod to your climate change denying allies in this forum, lol.


This might blow your mind, but not everyone views this sub (or discussion forums in general) as some sort of warfare where there's "allies which have to be kept happy by symbolic nods and "enemies" which have to be crushed and exposed.

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Jan 23 2023 05:55pm
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This might blow your mind, but not everyone views this sub (or discussion forums in general) as some sort of warfare where there's "allies which have to be kept happy by symbolic nods and "enemies" which have to be crushed and exposed.


this might blow your mind, but me identifying that your weird mental gymnastics (trying to turn a comment on the massive disinformation campaign by big oil into a desperate jab at the UN, which has been warning us about the dangers of man made climate change for decades now) are exactly that, does NOT mean that i assume "everyone" treats this sub the same way. that's just flawed logic. just because i identify YOU are a partisan hack doesn't mean everyone has to be, lol.
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Jan 24 2023 02:14am
Quote (fender @ Jan 23 2023 12:01pm)
yeah right, because abortion bans without any exception are such an outlier, and not pushed for / already introduced by countless republican lawmakers...


You are desperately trying to connect dots which are not there, just because someone is anti abortion doesn't mean they are pro incest and rape, smh. It's like saying if you eat bacon and eggs it means you are an Islamaphobe and want to kill all Muslims.
This is some S tier smoothness unlocked.

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Jan 24 2023 02:33am
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You are desperately trying to connect dots which are not there, just because someone is anti abortion doesn't mean they are pro incest and rape, smh. It's like saying if you eat bacon and eggs it means you are an Islamaphobe and want to kill all Muslims.
This is some S tier smoothness unlocked.


reading comprehension fail / straw-manning on your part. the point is not that they are "pro rape / incest". the criticism is that being anti-choice even in such extreme cases is taliban-like fundamentalism, and supported by only a tiny minority of the population.
they don't have to be a "fan" of rape and incest to still downplay it - like the scumbag in question does, and anyone else who holds their religious bullshit over the right of a woman to choose - even if she was raped.



imagine shilling for pieces of shit like that... "cathartic for teens", "natural circumstances"... you people are disgusting... literal groomers...

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Jan 24 2023 03:26am
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this might blow your mind, but me identifying that your weird mental gymnastics (trying to turn a comment on the massive disinformation campaign by big oil into a desperate jab at the UN, which has been warning us about the dangers of man made climate change for decades now) are exactly that, does NOT mean that i assume "everyone" treats this sub the same way. that's just flawed logic. just because i identify YOU are a partisan hack doesn't mean everyone has to be, lol.

Oh please, you have repeatedly framed my posts in terms of "keeping your 'allies' happy", you love to harp on about "exposing" whichever person you're debating with, you are the one who's taking an incredibly toxic and antagonistic stance in each discussion, your posts are the ones which contain an average of something like 2-3 negative adjectives per sentence. It's blatantly obvious that you view this sub (and political debates in general) in terms of a friend-foe dichotomy and a dialectical struggle to establish the supremacy of your ideas and viewpoints.
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Jan 24 2023 04:07am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 Jan 2023 10:26)
blah blah, projection, ad hom


that's a cute "nO yUo!!1!" and all, but me identifying that your weird mental gymnastics (trying to turn a comment on the massive disinformation campaign by big oil into a desperate jab at the UN, which has been warning us about the dangers of man made climate change for decades now) are exactly that, does NOT mean that i assume "everyone" treats this sub the same way. that's just flawed logic. just because i identify YOU are a partisan hack doesn't mean everyone has to be, lol.
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