Quote (fender @ 26 Sep 2020 12:30)

if you actually had an IQ above room temperature, you'd realise that my point wasn't that the charges against kraft were dropped because there is a law that explicitly states "if you're at least a millionaire, all of this doesn't apply to you", but that it's blatantly obvious that the rich and powerful have the resources to make i that way, while the poor and exploited don't, and will face the whole force of it. that's why your prisons are filled with (mostly poor and minority) non-violent drug offenders, while the people who crashed the economy and ruined countless existences are free...

of course this only played out this way because he is rich. no way some poor fuck would have had the lawyers to get them out of this mess. you'd have to be a complete fool to actually dispute that, lol.

america has a shitty two tier justice system, and it's not your 'patriotic duty' to DEFEND that - a true patriot would acknowledge and try to CHANGE it, lol. what you're doing is called jingoism.

Quote (fender @ Sep 26 2020 09:30am)

if you actually had an IQ above room temperature, you'd realise that my point wasn't that the charges against kraft were dropped because there is a law that explicitly states "if you're at least a millionaire, all of this doesn't apply to you", but that it's blatantly obvious that the rich and powerful have the resources to make i that way, while the poor and exploited don't, and will face the whole force of it. that's why your prisons are filled with (mostly poor and minority) non-violent drug offenders, while the people who crashed the economy and ruined countless existences are free...

of course this only played out this way because he is rich. no way some poor fuck would have had the lawyers to get them out of this mess. you'd have to be a complete fool to actually dispute that, lol.

america has a shitty two tier justice system, and it's not your 'patriotic duty' to DEFEND that - a true patriot would acknowledge and try to CHANGE it, lol. what you're doing is called jingoism.

Quote (fender @ Sep 26 2020 12:30pm)

if you actually had an IQ above room temperature, you'd realise that my point wasn't that the charges against kraft were dropped because there is a law that explicitly states "if you're at least a millionaire, all of this doesn't apply to you", but that it's blatantly obvious that the rich and powerful have the resources to make i that way, while the poor and exploited don't, and will face the whole force of it. that's why your prisons are filled with (mostly poor and minority) non-violent drug offenders, while the people who crashed the economy and ruined countless existences are free...

of course this only played out this way because he is rich. no way some poor fuck would have had the lawyers to get them out of this mess. you'd have to be a complete fool to actually dispute that, lol.

america has a shitty two tier justice system, and it's not your 'patriotic duty' to DEFEND that - a true patriot would acknowledge and try to CHANGE it, lol. what you're doing is called jingoism.

Quote (bogie160 @ 26 Sep 2020 18:53)

He got off because his (and a large number of other "regular" patrons) rights were violated.

The owners of the salon are facing a number of charges that include allegations of human trafficking. The video evidence is not what the prosecution is relying on, ergo the case goes ahead.

The "This proves that the United States is a banana republic!" take is just dumb and unintelligent. Try to put together an argument that doesn't fall apart to the least scrutiny.

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 26 2020 09:53am)

He got off because his (and a large number of other "regular" patrons) rights were violated.

The owners of the salon are facing a number of charges that include allegations of human trafficking. The video evidence is not what the prosecution is relying on, ergo the case goes ahead.

The "This proves that the United States is a banana republic!" take is just dumb and unintelligent. Try to put together an argument that doesn't fall apart to the least scrutiny.

Quote (fender @ Sep 26 2020 12:55pm)

are you seriously suggesting that some poor bastard without expensive lawyers would have gotten out of that? are you seriously diputing you have a two tier justice system? damn, you people are seriously deluded...

Quote (bogie160 @ 26 Sep 2020 19:00)

You quoted a woman who noted that Kraft's case was dropped and the case against the salon was ongoing. You implied that this is evidence that the United States criminal justice system is a "banana republic".

Except that there are very good reasons for why Kraft's case has been dropped (namely that the video evidence was unconstitutional) and good reasons for why the case against the salon are ongoing. Ergo, this does not prove that the United States is a banana republic, but is rather evidence that the criminal justice system is working as intended.

Do you have other criticisms of the criminal justice system? Are you concerned that the police might have gotten away with the video evidence in other circumstances? We can have that discussion after you acknowledge that your argument was bad and thank me for pointing it out.

Quote (fender @ Sep 26 2020 10:12am)

it's amazing how i can repeatedly shove your stupid face right into the point, and you still somehow manage to miss it. those 'good reasons' would have been EXACTLY the same for some poor fucker, but they would NOT have gotten away with it. that you're even trying to suggest this isn't true, while we see evidence of it on a daily basis and by the millions throughout your messed up 'justice' system, is simply mindblowing... you people are the reason this will only get worse, not better. banana republic.

Quote (fender @ Sep 26 2020 01:12pm)

it's amazing how i can repeatedly shove your stupid face right into the point, and you still somehow manage to miss it. those 'good reasons' would have been EXACTLY the same for some poor fucker, but they would NOT have gotten away with it. that you're even trying to suggest this isn't true, while we see evidence of it on a daily basis and by the millions throughout your messed up 'justice' system, is simply mindblowing... you people are the reason this will only get worse, not better. banana republic.

Quote (bogie160 @ 26 Sep 2020 19:34)

Would they have? No idea, because it's a supposition completely outside of what you quoted. Did you post the wrong quote? A case where bad evidence is correctly thrown out is not evidence of a "banana republic", and the contrast to the salon is poor. You are embarrassing yourself.