I've tried to look it up and got a bunch of conspiracy garbage. Gimme something specific

You're like a week behind the news.
The WIV was not genetically engineering or weaponizing viruses. They were studying coronaviruses that arose naturally in wildlife, and brought Horseshoe Bats from Yunnan to Wuhan carrying a strain identical to Covid-19. That is not only consistent with the scientific evidence of the source of the outbreak, but the only explanation at this time that actually fits the evidence.

Saying its not bioengineered is a red herring. Thats not what US intelligence or the media are examining. Its whether the WIV imported the disease and accidentally released it, and perhaps even were responisble for evolving it to the point of human transmissibility in their research on human tissue

Here's the reality of the world we live in. Accidents happen. When they do, someone will get blamed. Then it comes down to reputation and the media.
There is no way, the Soviet Union would win a media storm against the US, especially not in the US. "History is written by the winners".



After all this time, I doubt I could find any "source" articles. I'd bet money that if there were any they would have been rendered impossible to find or believe, by now.




Here are some facts that I think must be considered with the covid-19 thing going on right now.

1. For the past 4-5 years China has been "on the move" globally. Offering loans to countries that couldn't possibly ever pay them back. Countries is very select locations.
2. China has been feverishly increasing the size of their military, and building a lot of aircraft carriers.
3. China has once again set it's local sights on the South China Sea. Which, is against International Maritime Law.
4. The US govt. noticing all this "activity" has been hurting China economically in order to slow them down.


Just recently, we get a deadly virus with no vaccine, that we are supposed to believe is because people ate some bats. While gross, I would imagine the folks cooking and eating the bats would make seriously sure, that they were... well cooked.

And, like I've said a few times... the odds are much greater, when experimenting with a deadly virus, that it will eventually get away from them. It only takes one accident. Preventing it from getting out, takes NO accidents 1000 times a day.



/e Here's a NON-malicious scenario...

Someone in the lab breaks their skin and gets the virus. Being upstanding researchers they quarantine that person for 2-3 weeks. No symptoms... they declare the person healthy and allow them out of the lab. Oops, they turn out to be an asymptomatic carrier.

If I was a Vegas odds maker, I would bet that it was a lab accident, rather than bat soup.


Hell... they weren't even using conclusive tests, until that 10 yr old Japanese girl was shown to be an asymptomatic carrier. And that was long after it had already been running rampant in China.



Note the date on this article...

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission-chinese-woman-relatives-2020-2

This post was edited by Ghot on Apr 18 2020 02:12pm

They don't eat horseshoe bats anyway. They're impractically small and boney. About 1/5 the mass of a mouse, let alone a rat. People eat fruit bats, which don't carry the virus. And all the credible reporting I've seen at this point says there's zero evidence any imported bats were being sold at the Wuhan wet market, and bats arent a typical animal for such markets, even the exotic ones.

But its more than a coincidence that samples with nearly identical coronaviruses from a population 800 miles away were brought to Wuhan for research at a laboratory exactly in the middle of the outbreak

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 18 2020 02:02pm

Uh...that's not how propaganda works. One of the weaknesses of democracy is that it's much more difficult to control the flow of information AND disinformation. Look at how many people believe bullshit in America. How many people believe that Trump colluded with Russia for instance?

Granted. But that wasn't my point.

well it's not slowing down at all. It slows down in one state but rapidly spreads in another.
We'll have 50,000 deaths pretty soon here. By next week. We saw over 3400 deaths in one day in the USA but they were so afraid they split it up into the next day LOL
so for people who said this is just like another flu. If this goes on and the lockdoesn does not work. It's obviously not working as well as we thought. We locked down for how long and we still see 25,000-35,000 new cases a day.

SO tell me. With 50,000ish deaths by the end of next week. How is this similar to the flu?
How can you sit there and not use your brains and allow the media and people around you to give you information that is just simply false.
For example. "WE do not need masks" After 2.5 months of leaders around the world telling us that we need them.

WIthout cases slowing down. Trump will reopen and we will see over 300,000 deaths by next summer more or less. Are you guys ok with this?
300,000 assuming we lock down one more time this fall-winter. LOL.

It will be a lot more if we don't do anything after this current lockdown is up.

The truth is trump fucked up earlier and we could have prevented this from goign this far. He wants to blame china. Everyone blames china but leaders....around...the world WARNED trump and our government. We gambled. THEY gambled. Now we will reopen and GAMBLE again.

Now it's not yourself that you have to worry about. You have to worry about your job, your landlord, and just everything. Your family ect.
Instead of worrying for 1-2 months. We will have to fucking worry for over a YEAR and deal with these deaths.
At first they say it's highly unlikely to see over 1000 death. Then trump said it's under control. Then here we are with 2000+ deaths a day.
FOr all you trump supporters and people who belittle this situation. How do you feel about 300,000+ deaths by the next summer?

Your first argument will be "flus take out 60,000 a year so that's 2 flu seasons we've been through so we should have 120,000 deaths anyways"

Ok that's fine but then add on 300,000 to that 120,000 flu deaths and now you have 420,000. Happy?

This post was edited by Crankyjimster on Apr 18 2020 04:13pm

^ didnt expect some pro-Communist party propaganda bot to post here of all places

get back to me in a few months and lets see how our hospitals do.
last time i was here posting we had 3000 deaths and people like you said it's nothing to worry about

This post was edited by Crankyjimster on Apr 18 2020 04:14pm