I just think no matter how much we disagree with someone, there is some common ground that can be found somewhere. Once common ground is established, can get nuanced over the disagreements

It’s just so easy to be hostile over the internet and usually serves no purpose and makes everyone feel worse

I’m no saint btw, I have had 3 league accounts banned for toxicity but we are all works in progress

This post was edited by Bazi on Nov 1 2023 05:37pm

truthfully, i just see a lot of bias towards islam in this event and a lot of hypocrisy from even my own friends group saying support palestine.

i.e, muslim friend calling modi supporters nazis while posting that palestine are the right side in this event. its a lot of what im seeing here. ive already called for moving on, finding a better solution, teaching the people of gaza peace, gearing the next generation for peace, but, they dont want it - and that is an inherent problem with islamic culture, not just palestinians.

i also dont want to see these grievances played out in home country (i live in canada) because if you are here, you are canadian first, but, these morons make communities less safe for people who just want to live their lives in peace.

This post was edited by Budgeting on Nov 1 2023 05:46pm

Seems like the problem is you have no idea what you are talking about.

I can empathize with your situation.

My own friend group has been very mature about the situation in all honesty. I had 2 groomsmen , 1 born in tel aviv moved here (Midwest) as a child

and another who is half Korean mom half Palestinian dad from West Bank who’s parents met in California and he’s born in the states

We met In school, all went to training together and now all live in the same city. We had a Halloween party last Saturday and the two of them were both literally crying together in our study talking , just the two of them.

Bias aside it’s important to remember that we are all humans at the end of the day, with families and loved ones. I think when you use this as a starting point you can go far to build bridges and connections, rather than actively look for road blocks. Even with people you and I perceive to have zero in common with, I think we would be surprised that SOME common ground can be achieved. Using this also as a reminder that we are all striving for self improvement on one level or another.

I mean what’s the alternative really, we just hate on each other for every perceived difference? Honestly that sounds just too easy and quite frankly boring.

fascinating and bizarre !

does this look like the type of person who wants to build a bridge..? lol

but, you arent wrong at all.

Yeah bad timing on his part lol

But I bet if the 3 of us went out for a drink we would still build bridges

"In 2020, the ultra-Orthodox population in Israel numbered approximately 1,175,000, representing 12.6% of the total population. It is expected to reach 16% of Israel’s population by 2030, and to grow to around 2 million people by 2033."

but.. On wiki;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Religion
According to a 2010 Israel Central Bureau of Statistics study[77] of Israelis aged over 18:

8% of Israeli Jews define themselves as Haredim (or ultra-Orthodox);
12% are "religious" (non-Haredi Orthodox, also known as: dati leumi/national-religious or religious Zionist);
13% consider themselves "religious-traditionalists" (mostly adhering to Jewish Halakha);
25% are "non-religious traditionalists" (only partly respecting the Jewish Halakha), and
43% are "secular".

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 1 2023 06:17pm

The interesting thing about this is that this group is exempt from mandatory IDF service , despite having a growing population and the majority on the younger side of the spectrum. This has reportedly been a point of contention among secular Israeli

Israeli politics are actually really interesting