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Quote (Secksii @ Apr 18 2020 11:13am)
im guessing 100% accidental lab release.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_rfTdayLs


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext
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at the end of the day, Biden would probably be a "cheerleader-in-chief" of his cabinet rather than the one directing the day-to-day operations and setting the agenda.
something similar to Reagan's second term.


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Bummer. It looks like China has purchased The Lancet or at least it's scientists. :/

Where the coronavirus started (wildlife or lab or humans) is not exclusive. It could very well have been discovered in wildlife, then weaponized in a lab, or escaped from a lab.
That article and it's references does not preclude wildlife, lab or humans.
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Apr 18 2020 12:36pm
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cargill-deena-hinshaw-covid-19-1.5536916
Great example of consequences. It's true food industry based on fresh products got blasted.
Need to install a box facturing line or something.
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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 18 2020 11:30am)
Bummer. It looks like China has purchased The Lancet or at least it's scientists. :/

Where the coronavirus started (wildlife or lab or humans) is not exclusive. It could very well have been discovered in wildlife, then weaponized in a lab, or escaped from a lab.
That article and it's references does not preclude wildlife, lab or humans.


man you cant fix the brainwashing
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Apr 18 2020 12:40pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 18 2020 02:36pm)
man you cant fix the brainwashing




You really need to think.. before you type. ^^
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Apr 18 2020 12:46pm
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 18 2020 09:11am)
"Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."


When Trump said the above he didn't sound as bad. Transcripts don't capture the delivery (or failure to deliver).

Anyway, I say let the right-wing artificially lower the expectations of Biden. The Sanders folks did that and when it was Sanders vs. Biden 1 on 1, Biden was fine.

This post was edited by thundercock on Apr 18 2020 12:48pm
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You really need to think.. before you type. ^^


um no.. watching everyone continue to try and make a conspiracy out of this no matter what scientists or statements or newspapers etc. say.
Its pretty astounding how people HAVE to find a place to lay blame.
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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 18 2020 01:30pm)
Bummer. It looks like China has purchased The Lancet or at least it's scientists. :/

Where the coronavirus started (wildlife or lab or humans) is not exclusive. It could very well have been discovered in wildlife, then weaponized in a lab, or escaped from a lab.
That article and it's references does not preclude wildlife, lab or humans.


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Scientists from multiple countries have published and analysed genomes of the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),1 and they overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife


With these linked sources:

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Derp.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Apr 18 2020 12:49pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 18 2020 09:06am)
"Um, you know, there's a, uh, during World War II, uh, you know, where Roosevelt came up with a thing, uh, that, uh, you know, was totally different than a- than the- it's called, he called it, the, you know, the World War II, he had the war- the the War Production Board."

-Joe Biden being asked about Coronavirus yesterday




Quote (thundercock @ Apr 18 2020 02:46pm)
When Trump said the above he didn't sound as bad. Transcripts don't capture the delivery (or failure to deliver).

Anyway, I say let the right-wing artificially lower the expectations of Biden. The Sanders folks did that and when it was Sanders vs. Biden 1 on 1, Biden was fine.



I have the feeling that w/e ailment is affecting Biden, it's progressing rather quickly. Just oin the past year he's gone from barely coherent to soon to be drooling.

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