Police needlessly escalated the situation to a deadly encounter by using a no-knock warrant that put the value of potential evidence gathering above that of a human life.



The officer was way too jumpy and trigger happy as Philando was trying to comply with orders and be proactive about in cooperating with police.
There was no reason for the officer to feel threatened let alone a deadly threat, while Castile was trying to avoid any escalation by letting the officer know he was legally carrying.
Nobody should get shot because their good faith effort to put a cop at ease somehow makes him incredibly nervous.
When it comes to body language and tone of voice, the officer had no reason to read Philando as a threat. He could have not said he had a gun at all.
The shooting shows a serious hangup with how law enforcement treats legal gun owners.



Officers gave him absurd and needlessly onerous orders to follow that made 'complying' impossible and then shot him for the most trivial error in movement.
They never gave him a chance or benefit of the doubt. Their handling of the situation was abysmal



The officer did not take even a cursory second to judge the situation before opening fire, and the dispatch was negligent by failing to inform officers that the callers had already identified the gun as 'possibly fake'
Its more on dispatch than the cop, but his rush to shoot was maybe a half a second too fast at least, though that feels like armchair quarterbacking.



He was also pointing it at people and on the phone while waving the gun around, compounding his negligence and risk taking. The cops did nothing wrong.



Not only did police use an inherently dangerous no-knock raid without just cause, but were persecuting him for his political expression and justified their tactics based on his political affililiations.
They gave no warning before using flashbangs and gunfire without announcing themselves as police, completely justifying his armed response- they then killed him when he wasn't threatening them.



It seems like one of the inherent risks of going out in public with 6 foot tall 300+ lbs adult man with the mental capacity of a 4 year old
Reasonable people can have confusion and fears about the actions of someone erratic and clearly mentally ill, and mistake him for threatening people with a gun.

And then when their relative dies because the police couldn't save them, you can sue the police for not doing their job.



The police knocked. Watch the video.

Philandro was probably the only unfair case in there.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Aug 31 2020 08:32pm

If unidentified thugs are breaking into your home, you're not going to shoot at them? Do you even own any guns?

And who gives a single fuck about drugs? Drugs are an individual liberty issue. Stop hating individual liberty.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 31 2020 08:32pm

Huh I could be wrong on that one, I guess I didn't pay close attention to it. Well, seems odd they used a no-knock warrant and then... knocked. But looks from the videos like that's what happened, so maybe I'll give a pass there
But look at the Duncan Socrates Lemp example for how wrong that can go for no damn reason.

She was definitely involved in the drug racket and deserved to get busted, but no-knock warrants are still BS, either there's an imminent lethal threat and no warrant is needed at all, or the no-knock warrant is getting people killed

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 31 2020 08:39pm

There's a whole contingent within the bleep community that thinks that crack was invented by the CIA to enslave blacks. Either way it definitely didn't make their neighborhoods better.



Sounds like a fair law. I dont think much evidence is lost due to knocking on doors.

Its a shame Rand Paul was lynched for the 7th time before he could abolish it.

that could be true and easy to debate for sure. does it make the police murderers for doing their job, even if their job is based on a (probably unconstitutional law)

Role Model of the Right.



This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 31 2020 09:24pm

Now THIS is pod race-baiting