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Nov 8 2020 05:09pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ 8 Nov 2020 17:00)
scared the fuck out of me

i thought you meant the landslide (in favour of joe) was getting close to flipping


No, it's honestly still up in the air with all this shit coming out.

SIX STATES. 79 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES.

All decided by a total of 269,715 voters. This is 0.12% of all Reg. Voters in the United States.

GA 0.21%
AZ: 0.56%
PA: 0.61%
WI: 0.62%
NV: 2.4%
MI: 2.6%

Biden was declared the "winner" in all of them.

FULL AUDIT!
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Nov 8 2020 05:12pm
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No, it's honestly still up in the air with all this shit coming out.

SIX STATES. 79 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES.

All decided by a total of 269,715 voters. This is 0.12% of all Reg. Voters in the United States.

GA 0.21%
AZ: 0.56%
PA: 0.61%
WI: 0.62%
NV: 2.4%
MI: 2.6%

Biden was declared the "winner" in all of them.

FULL AUDIT!


NV and MI are pretty solid. 2.5% is a clear win.

AZ and PA less so but highly unlikely to flip.

And after that Trump could flip the remaining and it wouldn't matter.
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Nov 8 2020 05:14pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 8 Nov 2020 17:12)
NV and MI are pretty solid. 2.5% is a clear win.

AZ and PA less so but highly unlikely to flip.

And after that Trump could flip the remaining and it wouldn't matter.


Both NV and MI will have audit, and recount. Lots of sworn statements already from officials. MSM just ignoring still
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Nov 8 2020 05:20pm
For the few i know: Mail ballots & highly populated areas are the last counted IMO, which is totally logical.
So yet some states are maybe finishing rural counties and seems to be in a close race but at some point i bet a big change.
Maybe this will help Trump to give up (not sure lol).
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Nov 8 2020 05:32pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 8 2020 05:14pm)
Both NV and MI will have audit, and recount. Lots of sworn statements already from officials. MSM just ignoring still


Better get it done by December. Once the electors vote its over no matter the circumstances
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Nov 8 2020 05:35pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 9 2020 12:20am)
For the few i know: Mail ballots & highly populated areas are the last counted IMO, which is totally logical.
So yet some states are maybe finishing rural counties and seems to be in a close race but at some point i bet a big change.
Maybe this will help Trump to give up (not sure lol).


That would massively encourage Jere's Benford’s Law conspiracy confirmation bias on these elections... Which reminds me..


Quote (Jere @ Nov 9 2020 12:09am)
All decided by a total of 269,715 voters. This is 0.12% of all Reg. Voters in the United States.

GA 0.21%
AZ: 0.56%
PA: 0.61%
WI: 0.62%
NV: 2.4%
MI: 2.6%

Biden was declared the "winner" in all of them.

FULL AUDIT!


If Biden wins them all.. Can it be called: A landslide?

This post was edited by Knoppie on Nov 8 2020 05:37pm
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Nov 8 2020 05:36pm
In states where the margin ends up being lower than 1%, there should be a full recount. It's important for democracy to either detect it if something went really wrong, or to remove any doubts surrounding Biden's win.
Nonetheless, a sober, nonpartisan look at the current state of the race is necessary, and it tells me that it is exceedingly unlikely that any recounts or audits or court cases can flip this kind of lead.

Like... imagine this had been the map:


and the election had really come down to 10k votes in Georgia - it would be conceivable for this result to be flipped with a recount and and all-out effort by the GOP, deploying all dirty tricks and shenanigans. But the way the race stands right now, with Biden solidly ahead in PA, looking increasingly likely to hold on in AZ, and with NC looking like it's not entirely secure for Trump yet either, there's just too many fires for the Trump campaign to extinguish. They're desperately grasping at the last straw, but I think deep down, Trump and his crew know that it's over.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 8 2020 05:36pm
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Nov 8 2020 06:05pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 8 2020 05:36pm)
In states where the margin ends up being lower than 1%, there should be a full recount. It's important for democracy to either detect it if something went really wrong, or to remove any doubts surrounding Biden's win.
Nonetheless, a sober, nonpartisan look at the current state of the race is necessary, and it tells me that it is exceedingly unlikely that any recounts or audits or court cases can flip this kind of lead.

Like... imagine this had been the map:
https://www.270towin.com/maps/bOQvm.png

and the election had really come down to 10k votes in Georgia - it would be conceivable for this result to be flipped with a recount and and all-out effort by the GOP, deploying all dirty tricks and shenanigans. But the way the race stands right now, with Biden solidly ahead in PA, looking increasingly likely to hold on in AZ, and with NC looking like it's not entirely secure for Trump yet either, there's just too many fires for the Trump campaign to extinguish. They're desperately grasping at the last straw, but I think deep down, Trump and his crew know that it's over.


They can recount if they want to do it legally and all that. I just want them to shut the he'll up and stop whining.

Like, do it without constant Twitter hitching
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Nov 8 2020 06:12pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 8 Nov 2020 18:35)
That would massively encourage Jere's Benford’s Law conspiracy confirmation bias on these elections... Which reminds me..




If Biden wins them all.. Can it be called: A landslide?

no, ‘landslide’ is based off numbers and expectations. and per polling and the media President Trump was expected to lose by 10+ points nationally and by 5+ in almost every battleground state plus texas
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Nov 8 2020 06:17pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Nov 8 2020 06:35pm)
If Biden wins them all.. Can it be called: A landslide?


It'd be a repeat of 2016, just for the Dem's
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