Millions of people don’t have an ID, predominantly those with low income. This is a problem, let’s help them get ID. The main deterrent is it costs money. No problem. For the next two years, every citizen is entitled to one free copy of a government issued ID and any other documents required in obtaining ID. Everybody should have ID, you are at a significant disadvantage if you don’t have it. Let’s actually do something about this problem.
On to voter ID —> Regardless of how safe our elections are, I see no problem in attempting to further secure the process. It is a coveted process that requires utmost integrity. I agree with any advances in further securing the integrity of our elections, regardless of how minuscule the benefits may be. Just because we do not have any history of proven voter fraud does not mean we would not be susceptible to it in the future.. Let’s help people get IDs and implement some common sense voter laws to bolster the security of our elections, regardless of how secure they may already be.

Thinking this problem through has led me to realize why dystopian sci-fi depict futures where people get their retinas scanned or have a barcode tatoo'd on their neck for identification. It's the only reliable system that removes cost from the equation.

BS, lol.
It's about people not being able to hide their identity and information from the dystopian regime, which thus has total control over their data and whereabouts.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 23 2021 11:40pm

Interesting theory, but don't retinal scanners cost something? Likewise, post Holocaust, any form of barcode would likely lead to protests. Auschwitz is still taught about in schools, after all.

Honestly, Georgia's method of providing free State ID cards to those who cannot afford them or simply want the ID to vote makes the most sense to me.

At any rate, it's estimated that 10% of black voting-eligible citizens, 8% of hispanic/brown eligible voters, and 5% of white voting-eligible citizens do not have valid ID. That translates to roughly 10 million citizens without ID.

I agree 100% with ta909. Everyone should have an ID, if for no other reason than they may want a bank account, or like, a job, or something, at some point. While I support charging a license fee for drivers to help fund the DMV, and registration fees for vehicles to help fund the roads, as a matter of course, I honestly believe State ID's should be free to all. Likewise, I tend to think that State ID cards should work more like they do in Arizona, where it's valid until you turn 65, after which point it goes to every 8 years. Thus the only reason to get a replacement is if you do something to drastically change how you look.

Paper and plastic both cost money. So there is always going to be a cost associated with issuing and replacing them.



If the fact that an ID costs ~$25 is actually a real issue, then we are not going to solve it. People are always going to be able to latch onto that excuse to argue against a secure voting process.

The easier it is to create an identity, the easier it will be to vote fraudulently. The harder is it to create an identity, the more people will argue that their right to vote is being restricted due to their inability to obtain or hold into their paper/plastic document. As long as paper/plastic is part of the equation, we're never going to reach a compromise where neither side has an excuse to push for change. Right now, the pendulum has swung so far one way (getting an ID so damn easy all you need is $25) but apparently even that is not far enough for some people.

Wrong again kenny w I said that user got nothing to say at home cuz his wamen decides everything for him. Great job once again trying to pull my words out of context.

Dying breed? Ordinary working class people are the salt of the earth and will always form the backbone of society. Better get used to it buddy

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/cleveland-connection-in-deadly-police-shooting-of-teen-in-columbus-i-team/

Woman seen almost stabbed in Columbus police shooting video now gets death threats: I-Team



woke lefties (like some of the usual suspects here) have decided this black person’s life doesn’t matter

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this

How are we supposed to interpret this? People are mad at her because her existence allowed a justified cop shooting to occur? People are actually mad that an example of cops protecting black citizens is out there because it undermines the narrative?

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 26 2021 02:09pm