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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 28 2021 06:53pm)
So Trump lights the country on fire his last couple months in office, but the Democrats(and a handful of patriotic Republicans) are the bad guys for trying to hold him accountable?

I agree... I'd like to never think about Trump again. So the Senate should do their duty and convict/disqualify him. He'll never be able to run for office again.


Which quotes of him are concrete examples of inciting riots and violence?

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Which quotes of him are concrete examples of inciting riots and violence?


If you have to ask then you are in the cult and not worth the effort.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 28 2021 07:13pm)
If you have to ask then you are in the cult and not worth the effort.


So I ask for an example and immediately get jumped and called a cultist.

The irony is astounding.
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Jan 28 2021 06:27pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jan 29 2021 01:15pm)
So I ask for an example and immediately get jumped and called a cultist.

The irony is astounding.


he just mad af cause all the inciting came from dems and the left mostly. Trump just pushed his sensitive button and now he gona cry for awhile. I mean he been soo mad when hillary didn't win the tears are at least 4 years old
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Jan 28 2021 06:29pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jan 28 2021 04:12pm)
Which quotes of him are concrete examples of inciting riots and violence?


Keep in mind, the bar for criminal incitement is incredibly high. The question is whether or not he's ethically responsible and to me, there's no doubt that's the case. The people who were arrested stated that they were only listening to Trump.

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And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that’s happened. The best is yet to come.

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.


https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-media-e79eb5164613d6718e9f4502eb471f27
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Jan 28 2021 06:34pm
Quote (IceMage @ 29 Jan 2021 00:53)
So Trump lights the country on fire his last couple months in office, but the Democrats(and a handful of patriotic Republicans) are the bad guys for trying to hold him accountable?

I reject the disingenuous framing of Democrat partisan tactics as "holding him accountable". Of course Trump is the big baddie here, but this doesnt make the Dems any less shitty.

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I agree... I'd like to never think about Trump again. So the Senate should do their duty and convict/disqualify him. He'll never be able to run for office again.

Like I said previously, there is zero chance that Trump ever wins a general election again after the Capitol riots. I also consider it exceedingly unlikely that he would even win the GOP nomination in 2024 if he tried.

He has left office in disgrace, with bad approval ratings and a mediocre track record in terms of how his party is doing with him at the top of the ticket. (This is something that looked a lot more favorable for Trump back on election night, when everyone still assumed that the GOP would hold the GA seats and thus the Senate.) Why would the party nominate him again?

And that's not even taking into account the fact that being banned from twitter robs him of his most potent instrument of power. And that he'd be 77 years old, whereas he already looked spent and visibly slowed down over the past 4 years. And that he will be entangled in endless lawsuits and litigation now that his immunity has ended. The attorneys from the SDNY have been waiting for this moment for 4 years, they're gonna have a field day with him.

If you guys looked at it with a cool head, you would see that there's no chance for him to become president again.




Quote (thundercock @ 29 Jan 2021 00:55)
The country isn't particularly divided on this issue. Yes, extreme partisans will be upset but extreme partisans can fuck themselves because they are the reason for division.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/25/majority-supports-trump-impeachment-462264

Eh, support for impeachment only stands at 56% in this poll. Not really a huge majority in favor, and not that much higher than Biden's 51.3% vote share.

And among Republicans voters, impeachment is way underwater:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-impeachment-removal-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 28 2021 06:37pm
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Keep in mind, the bar for criminal incitement is incredibly high. The question is whether or not he's ethically responsible and to me, there's no doubt that's the case. The people who were arrested stated that they were only listening to Trump.



https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-media-e79eb5164613d6718e9f4502eb471f27


Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”

Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”

Maxine Waters: “If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store… you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them.”

Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”


Weird how inciting violence only counts for the Right.


Hypocrisy is real.

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Jan 28 2021 06:39pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jan 29 2021 10:37am)
Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”

Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”

Maxine Waters: “If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store… you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them.”

Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”


Weird how inciting violence only counts for the Right.


"We are going to the capitol" is not even remotely comparable to what you just posted.
None of the quotes you put up mentioned violence in the slightest.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 28 2021 07:39pm)
"We are going to the capitol" is not even remotely comparable to what you just posted.


Yeah they asked for violence. He said he was going somewhere. You are right huge difference.
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"We are going to the capitol" is not even remotely comparable to what you just posted.


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