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May 20 2020 10:29am
Quote (fender @ May 20 2020 07:23am)
he was hunted down by two racist scumbags and murdered in cold blood.


This is where you lose everyone who has seen the video. He attacked. He attempted to take a weapon that was not (according to the defendents) even aimed at him away. He repeatedly punched the owner of that weapon. He was shot incidentally in that struggle.

Where's the cold blood? Where's the "murder"?

Quote (Goomshill @ May 20 2020 08:26am)
has there been any evidence so far that the carried guns were actually pointed at Arbery?


No. And as a point in fact, the father's weapon was specifically NOT pointed at Arbery during the incident. The video's still up at liveleak, you can check it out.
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This is where you lose everyone who has seen the video. He attacked. He attempted to take a weapon that was not (according to the defendents) even aimed at him away. He repeatedly punched the owner of that weapon. He was shot incidentally in that struggle.

Where's the cold blood? Where's the "murder"?



No. And as a point in fact, the father's weapon was specifically NOT pointed at Arbery during the incident. The video's still up at liveleak, you can check it out.


Need the video where he's "attacking" please
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No. And as a point in fact, the father's weapon was specifically NOT pointed at Arbery during the incident. The video's still up at liveleak, you can check it out.


I was pretty sure about the father not drawing a weapon until after shots were fired based on the video so that one wasn't much in doubt
but the son is carrying a shotgun when he gets out, and arbery rushes him and puts a hand on the barrel. Was the gun pointed at him? Probably not, since it went off pretty instantaneously frame-by-frame as arbery charged him, but the only matching bullet wound was through arbery's hand at point blank. So the evidence we have seems to stack against that

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This is where you lose everyone who has seen the video. He attacked. He attempted to take a weapon that was not (according to the defendents) even aimed at him away. He repeatedly punched the owner of that weapon. He was shot incidentally in that struggle.

Where's the cold blood? Where's the "murder"?


He doesn't know what 'cold blood' means, can't blame him, if you and everyone you know are dirty krauts its just assumed. Its like why whats called "American" dressing everywhere else in the world is branded as "Ranch" in America.
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May 20 2020 10:42am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 20 2020 09:33am)
I was pretty sure about the father not drawing a weapon until after shots were fired based on the video so that one wasn't much in doubt
but the son is carrying a shotgun when he gets out, and arbery rushes him and puts a hand on the barrel. Was the gun pointed at him? Probably not, since it went off pretty instantaneously frame-by-frame as arbery charged him, but the only matching bullet wound was through arbery's hand at point blank. So the evidence we have seems to stack against that


Unfortunately the video isn't on the confrontation prior to arbery attacking. You can hear the shots fired, and the first shot isn't until Arbery has already attacked and the video IS on the struggle. So for factual verification, that video is not good enough for anything except to confirm that the father was NOT aiming a weapon at Arbery, and no shots were fired until AFTER Arbery had attacked the son.
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May 20 2020 10:53am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 20 2020 11:42am)
Unfortunately the video isn't on the confrontation prior to arbery attacking. You can hear the shots fired, and the first shot isn't until Arbery has already attacked and the video IS on the struggle. So for factual verification, that video is not good enough for anything except to confirm that the father was NOT aiming a weapon at Arbery, and no shots were fired until AFTER Arbery had attacked the son.


the video doesnt show a shot but does show an attack by Arbery?
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May 20 2020 10:59am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 20 2020 09:53am)
the video doesnt show a shot but does show an attack by Arbery?


Search "Liveleak Arbery Shooting" and go watch it yourself.

Your question indicates that you haven't seen it. Passing judgement without even seeing what evidence is available is pretty trashy.
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May 20 2020 11:07am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 20 2020 11:59am)
Search "Liveleak Arbery Shooting" and go watch it yourself.

Your question indicates that you haven't seen it. Passing judgement without even seeing what evidence is available is pretty trashy.


why would i watch people die when instead i can outsource that labor to stupid people?
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May 20 2020 11:18am
Quote (thesnipa @ 20 May 2020 11:07)
why would i watch people die when instead i can outsource that labor to stupid people?


hell yeah brother, cheers from the lower right quadrant
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Quote (ThatAlex @ May 20 2020 12:18pm)
hell yeah brother, cheers from the lower right quadrant


on a semi serious note i've given up on watching people die. i just dont like to do it. if it leads me to make bad conclusions so be it.
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Quote (thesnipa @ May 20 2020 10:20am)
on a semi serious note i've given up on watching people die. i just dont like to do it. if it leads me to make bad conclusions so be it.


That's a very respectable stance, I salute you.

However, if you are not willing to view the same evidence that the jury will be required to view, why do you believe you should openly condemn actions that you don't even know?

Edit: Also note, the video is not "gorey" or anything. Nor does it continue past him falling on the ground. It's not one of those super disturbing or shocking videos. As far as "dying" videos go, it's one of the most tame I've seen in years.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 20 2020 12:54pm
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