Lol... zero awareness

Former G.O.P. governor of Kansas (Bill Graves) endorses democrat over Kris Kobach. Surely the PaRD republicans will say this is completely normal.

A textbook RINO who doesnt have to face voters anymore finally comes clean and admits that he's effectively a Democrat in this day and age. That's not as big of a story as you seem to think.

Trump's election has brought realignment in the coalitions of both major parties. The GOP has won support among working-class voters from Democrats, and the Democrats are gaining ground from the GOP with well-educated suburbanites.
Such a realignment is a normal process and usually happens at least once every 2-3 election cycles. And a guy like Bill Graves happens to be among those affected by this recent realignment, guys like him happen to be the kind of people who suddenly find themselves washed away from their old home and stranded on a new shore.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 5 2018 10:23pm

Lol
That's fair, BUT
When is the last time you heard about a democrat who held elected office (as a democrat), and come out and say they are endorsing a republican running against a democrat? I'm sure there's probably an example but i literally can't think of any, it seems to always be republicans crossing the aisle to endorse dems and not vice versa

Okay i lied, i can think of one example of that, joe manchin (technically a dem) endorsed susan collins (technically a republican) in the '14 senate race, but i only know that cuz i live in maine and is not surprising at all as they are both dead center.

well, there's a reason why there is a well-established term "RINO", but not "LINO".

generally speaking, the country has been moving to the left on almost all soical and cultural issues for over 25 straight years, since the early 90s. thus, there was no real incentive for moderate democrats to shift to the right, while there was plenty of incentive for moderate republicans to shift to the left.

I agree that the Manchin/Collins example is an isolated case. These two have almost identical positions and ideology, and they know and respect each other a lot.

Not sure if this is true. Maybe some things changed in the last 1.5 years but I don't think as drastically as to claim the above.

In 2016,

Trump won white college graduates 49% to 45%
Income 50,000-100,000, Trump 49% vs 45% for Hillary
Trump also won the suburban vote by a margin of 5%

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People have this notion that it was dumb hillbillies that voted Trump in. The reason he won is he got the support of white, middle-class suburban America.

compared to romney and mccain, Trump did lose a noticeable amount of support from suburban whites, but he gained equally among rural whites. that trump still (barely) won the white suburban and the college-educated white vote is no contradiction to this trend.

In general, party realignment is a slow process that mostly takes place under the surface. Neither the GOP gains among working-class voters nor the gains of Democrats in Suburbia are very big if you only look at the nominal numbers. But in a country that is almost perfectly split between two highly polarized camps, in a country where only 20% of the voters are even remotely "in play" during a typical election, even small-scale shifts can have a sizeable effect on the outcome of elections.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 5 2018 10:44pm

Trump won them over when when scalia died and he control + v'd the federalist society's list of SCOTUS nominees. They probably drooled over that and were willing to look past his amorality.

90% of american care more about their own benefit and less about morals than they admit. with the exception of the religious right, looking past trump's amorality wasnt thaaat hard for them.

Arent like the majority of middle class suburban americans religious though? Hence why i made that point. Lol.