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Sep 17 2010 11:40am
Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 17 2010 05:05pm)
ok thanks



its only falling from a  1,368 ft  point, how could it create eough heat in the first place to melt something so huge.
you make it sound like the core columns didnt even exist

How can you honestly compair a coat hanger, which is in a sense junk metal to 2% crabon steel?
what you did is a constant bending, even titanium would break if bent back and forth non stop.
  friction would make things hot i understand that well, but not to the point of melting it,
not from that height anyways, maybe if it was makeing re entry into our atmoshere.
 
this also ignored the whole concept of tensile strength of that metal, and doesnt explain how pools of molten metal stayed hot for days.




the fact i know what kind of heat needs to be applied to the metals in question in order to melt it.
the bigger the piece the more heat needed to melt it, and lets not forget thermal conductivity,
the heat would be transfered to other areas of the metal.
with that in mind  how can a fuel fire do this?


In a fire it wouldn't. In an explosion however, which evidently happened, it is very much plausible that a critical temperature had been reached. The density of the heat in an explosion is far far higher than in a fire.

On the molten pools: They were made by the cleanup crew oxygen cutting the steel.
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Sep 17 2010 11:47am
Could an amount of aluminium and rust molten the strategics parts of the structure to make it fall in 6.5 second more likely than the plane dammages?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgTesO_5l3s

This post was edited by jerds24 on Sep 17 2010 11:47am
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Sep 17 2010 12:39pm
Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 17 2010 12:05pm)
ok thanks



its only falling from a 1,368 ft point, how could it create eough heat in the first place to melt something so huge.
you make it sound like the core columns didnt even exist

How can you honestly compair a coat hanger, which is in a sense junk metal to 2% crabon steel?
what you did is a constant bending, even titanium would break if bent back and forth non stop.
friction would make things hot i understand that well, but not to the point of melting it,
not from that height anyways, maybe if it was makeing re entry into our atmoshere.

this also ignored the whole concept of tensile strength of that metal, and doesnt explain how pools of molten metal stayed hot for days.




the fact i know what kind of heat needs to be applied to the metals in question in order to melt it.
the bigger the piece the more heat needed to melt it, and lets not forget thermal conductivity,
the heat would be transfered to other areas of the metal.
with that in mind how can a fuel fire do this?


Maybe if you read this link, like I've posted previously, you would quit asked questions that already have answers: http://debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
Look about 2/3 of the way down, and read the section below the picture of construction equipment and flaming rubble.
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Sep 17 2010 03:15pm
Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 16 2010 08:50pm)
i guess you didnt read were i mention i have been welding since my trade school training?


That's really not on par with what happened on 9/11. I would normally not expect this week of an argument, but again, zeitgeist.
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