This is common sense reform that TBH should have happened eons ago. I hope it happens, although there's a strong sugar lobby that will fight it. I'm not against SNAP but IMO the people that need it should not be buying pop, cheese puffs and garbage tier calorie packed but nutrient lacking food.

They have tried here under various food security programs to eliminate people using money for those junk food items but the stores are unwilling to expend any money that would alter their point of sale system to sort items like that, burdening the store to essentially do the enforcement.

What they did next was hire a bunch of checkers and people submit their detailed receipts. Well that didn't go well either due to some integrity issues but also people in general are lazy and were just shoving everything through rather than searching detailed reciept lines for non eligible items and then you also spent a bunch of money on reciept checkers.

Ultimately it has to get done at the point of sale system. It's just every store and chain and some people only have access to mom and pop stores, makes it harder.

I am for full elimination of junk food purchases though. It's a plague here. I would prefer the products get the Canadian cigarette treatment. Pictures of grotesque hearts and humans on every can of pop or bag of chips. I'm not even being hyperbolic. It's disgusting what it's doing.

The fact you have third world countries with warning signs all over the same product sold in America with no warning signs speaks volumes to how well lobby groups have done in North America, much like when you compare to the amount of whole food EU consumes as part of its diet to North America. Probably has something to do with the big net wealth increases in our politicians eh.

This post was edited by SBD on Feb 17 2025 09:07am

Very good!

very famously what people do is simply launder food stamps for drugs by buying the allowed products and trading them to dealers
huge extra sales of meat and soda at the start of the month

I don't think you're going to beat low level point of sale fraud and laundering by micromanaging what products are allowed and forbidden. We already ban alcohol, tobacco, prepared meals, non-food supplies, OTC medicines, etc.
It falls into the category of the well intentioned nanny state being ineffectual and overbearing. People who eat junk foods are going to find ways to eat junk foods anyway, people who scam the system will continue scamming the system.
I think you could have more rigorous enforcement to identify and prosecute fraud at the federal level, enough for people to fear the consequences, but you won't get very far trying to LARP as michelle obama and tell people what they're allowed to eat


generally speaking I think a lot of people agree with RFK Jr's agenda when he's trying to tear down regulations and mandates, but disagree once he starts trying to put up his own regulations and mandates

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 17 2025 03:04pm

I think we've all seen this argument play out before.
They're (insert democratic community) going to complain about how their community has ran all of the grocery stores out of the area first, with no underlying intent on buying unprocessed food anyways.
Then claim the for profit grocery store system in this country is just Racist.

The solution isn't to try to track down every instance of fraud, which is an exercise in futility without a robust surveillance state. The obvious solution is to shut down the greasy flea markets. The fences depend on these markets to move their product, and everyone and their dog knows that the only things sold at these markets are stolen goods. The phenomenon is hilariously satirized in Trailer Park Boys.

I mean I'm pretty sure a black market could exist as barebones as "drug dealer gives his grocery list to some crackhead on food stamps"

If you round up the drug dealers (who are known as they are public facing), there are no drug dealers to commission theft

That being said, flea market is low barrier to sales, individual commissions is high barrier & hardly worth their time

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 17 2025 04:36pm