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Jul 14 2024 11:42am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 14 2024 01:20pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inEs0Jayv0Y

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sealed the deal.
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Jul 14 2024 11:43am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 14 2024 01:28pm)
I think it is false for several reasons:

- The quality of life, education level, in Swiss
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland <== here

I guess U.S have a fix a much deeper problem to reach such level of control.

Btw did you see the banner of his channel ?

ya, that's how i see it. it's not the gun, the gun is a tool.


USA has an illness, to very broadly describe numerous problems in policy/education/health

i see the banner, i am not smart enough to make any connections from it.

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Jul 14 2024 11:46am
I’m here for the conspiracies

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Yep they deserved it

They didn't change at all so they deserve another Trump victory this year
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Jul 14 2024 11:47am
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Interesting one. Literally the first line reads

"The only British Prime Minister to have been assassinated was Spencer Perceval"

We can chalk that up as 1-1 Perceval to Lincoln. What about the rest?
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Jul 14 2024 12:04pm
Quote (Bruv @ Jul 13 2024 11:32pm)
ok

a righty tried to go after him
so how are they going to spin it on fox news


He's not a righty, He is donated to left leaning causes.
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Jul 14 2024 12:05pm
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Interesting one. Literally the first line reads

"The only British Prime Minister to have been assassinated was Spencer Perceval"

We can chalk that up as 1-1 Perceval to Lincoln. What about the rest?


The US has the same number of political leaders as the UK (one at a time), but 5 times the population. So even just from a statistical point of view, one would expect five times as many assassination attempts on US presidents than on UK leaders because there's a five times larger pool of potential maniacs, crazies or extremists to draw from.

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Jul 14 2024 12:07pm
Quote (zorzin @ 14 Jul 2024 19:18)
Very good question. All I know is that there's a whole lota stuff not adding up on the secret services side. Multiple instances of people yelling at cops/security telling them that there's a guy with a gun on a roof aiming at Trump. My faith in the average American is restored because it seems they still have situational awareness but the secret service?

As it stands, you can't fake that shot, so the shooter was 100% trying to kill Trump. The question is: did the secret service let him?

Like I'm really not an expert on sniper team positioning but even I can make sense of the below picture. It's the most obvious spot one could pick.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBgcR96h/1720965086206158m.jpg

I get what you're saying, but imho, this is a textbook case for (a slight variation of) Hanlon's Razor: "never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence".
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Jul 14 2024 12:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 14 2024 07:05pm)
The US has the same number of political leaders as the UK (one at a time), but 5 times the population. So even just from a statistical point of view, one would expect five times as many assassination attempts on US presidents than on UK leaders because there's a five times larger pool of potential maniacs, crazies or extremists to draw from.


And yet the last attempt on a UK leader was 1812, thats over 200 years. The US population surpassed the UK in 1860.
US population was roughly double UK population until the 1950's.

So how many US leaders got shot since? Not to mention MLK, Malcolm X and all the attempted shootings like Reagan.
Your question was would more gun control lead to less leaders being shot. The evidence overwhelmingly supports the answer being yes.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 14 2024 02:07pm)
I get what you're saying, but imho, this is a textbook case for (a slight variation of) Hanlon's Razor: "never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence".


You could definitely be right and I am leaning towards the incompetence camp but holy moly this level of short-sightedness should not be possible for the secret service. 4 confirmed sniper teams, agents in the building of the shooter, an extension ladder placed conveniently by the side of the building (allegedly), everyone and their mother telling the fuzz that they see a guy with a gun and the best shots in the world let some limp wristed whiteboy sneak up on them?

I don't know which version is worse for American hegemony. It's like Americans started reading Trudeaus art of war
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