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Oct 11 2024 09:59am
Quote (tugofpeace @ 11 Oct 2024 17:43)
The whole point of mRNA technology was that new vaccines could be created quickly. They literally had a plan to have quarterly booster shots if things went their way. Epic fail.

mRNA technology did produce vaccines against covid in record time, it took some 10 months from the virus becoming a global issue to the first batches being rolled out. That's insanely quick and was a major success which shouldn't be downplayed. During the second half of the winter 2020/21, it was tremendously helpful to have the healthcare workers and the residents of nursing homes vaccinated.

Against normal viruses, this pace would be sufficient. But not when you have new major variants coming out every 3 months which spread around the world within 4-6 weeks and invalidate the transmission protection of the existing vaccines. This development made the strategy of keeping infection numbers down untenable and forced governments into a strategy of letting the virus rip while hoping that the vaccines will protect the vulnerable from severe disease to a sufficient degree. Which they did, all in all.

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mRNA technology did produce vaccines against covid in record time, it took some 10 months from the virus becoming a global issue to the first batches being rolled out. That's insanely quick and was a major success which shouldn't be downplayed. During the second half of the winter 2020/21, it was tremendously helpful to have the healthcare workers and the residents of nursing homes vaccinated.

Against normal viruses, this pace would be sufficient. But not when you have new major variants coming out every 3 months which spread around the world within 4-6 weeks and invalidate the transmission protection of the existing vaccines. This development made the strategy of keeping infection numbers down untenable and forced governments into a strategy of letting the virus rip while hoping that the vaccines will protect the vulnerable from severe disease to a sufficient degree. Which they did, all in all.


They were developed in record time because they knew this virus was coming out.. before covid, no pharmaceutical company had ever brought an mRNA vaccine to market, especially to the public. All of a sudden you have Moderna, Pfizer, J&J, Astrazeneca all come out with an mRNA vaccine in record time, with no safety testing. Unheard of..

Not only that but these vaccines never prevented transmission, that was a lie that they publicly admitted to in court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnxlxzxoZx0
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Covid was fake (common flu strain), vaccines were fake (never worked not even the 1st one), lockdowns were government tyranny to subjugate you. Simple as
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They were developed in record time because they knew this virus was coming out.. before covid, no pharmaceutical company had ever brought an mRNA vaccine to market, especially to the public. All of a sudden you have Moderna, Pfizer, J&J, Astrazeneca all come out with an mRNA vaccine in record time, with no safety testing. Unheard of..

Not only that but these vaccines never prevented transmission, that was a lie that they publicly admitted to in court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnxlxzxoZx0


J&J and Astrazeneca didn't use mRNA, their vaccines were based on older technology. Also, the mRNA technology had been on the verge of breakthrough for quite some time, so it was actually not a surprise that they were able to create a viable product once governments were willing to provide funding and remove red tape and certain time-consuming safety protocols.




Quote (El1te @ 11 Oct 2024 18:25)
Covid was fake (common flu strain)

Total number of deaths in the US by year:

2017: 2.81 million
2018: 2.84 million
2019: 2.85 million
2020: 3.38 million
2021: 3.46 million
2022: 3.27 million
2023: 3.09 million


If covid was fake and just a normal flu strain, what caused the spike in overall mortality in 2020-2022?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 09:50am)
J&J and Astrazeneca didn't use mRNA, their vaccines were based on older technology. Also, the mRNA technology had been on the verge of breakthrough for quite some time, so it was actually not a surprise that they were able to create a viable product once governments were willing to provide funding and remove red tape and certain time-consuming safety protocols.





Total number of deaths in the US by year:

2017: 2.81 million
2018: 2.84 million
2019: 2.85 million
2020: 3.38 million
2021: 3.46 million
2022: 3.27 million
2023: 3.09 million


If covid was fake and just a normal flu strain, what caused the spike in overall mortality in 2020-2022?


Fake regime statistics

Even if you assume the numbers are true, you're drawing a causation here based on nothing but a correlation with Covid. We've been getting more and more unhealthy by the year, accelerating rapidly, trans insanity and body positivity have gone through the roof. You don't think body positivity and gay sh*t could be a factor in increased mortality? You are aware that sodomy cultivates and spreads mortal diseases? How about the unhinged black violence that has spiked since the 2020 BLM pogroms?

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 09:50am)
J&J and Astrazeneca didn't use mRNA, their vaccines were based on older technology. Also, the mRNA technology had been on the verge of breakthrough for quite some time, so it was actually not a surprise that they were able to create a viable product once governments were willing to provide funding and remove red tape and certain time-consuming safety protocols.





Total number of deaths in the US by year:

2017: 2.81 million
2018: 2.84 million
2019: 2.85 million
2020: 3.38 million
2021: 3.46 million
2022: 3.27 million
2023: 3.09 million


If covid was fake and just a normal flu strain, what caused the spike in overall mortality in 2020-2022?


To add, why are the total deaths higher in 2021 when 2020 saw the most severity? Covid had wound down by 2021. Your own statistics disprove your argument

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Quote (El1te @ 11 Oct 2024 18:55)
Fake regime statistics

Even if you assume the numbers are true, you're drawing a causation here based on nothing but a correlation with Covid. We've been getting more and more unhealthy by the year, accelerating rapidly, trans insanity and body positivity have gone through the roof. You don't think body positivity and gay sh*t could be a factor in increased mortality? You are aware that sodomy cultivates and spreads mortal diseases? How about the unhinged black violence that has spiked since the 2020 BLM pogroms?

The same pattern is found in countries all around the world, so they've either been all faking their numbers in a coordinated effort, or maybe there was indeed excess mortality during the covid years?!
Also, the whole premise is ridiculous. To keep up any semblance of consistency, the nefarious governments would have to revise their own population figures down below their actual level, which would in turn clash with data from local governments, from private insurers, from the IRS and so on and forth. Your conspiracy theory would require thousands of people to be in the know and not spill the beans.

Could the government fake a few thousand deaths which didn't actually occur without anyone noticing? Yes. Can they fake more than a million deaths above baseline without anyone noticing? Hell no.



Quote (El1te @ 11 Oct 2024 18:57)
To add, why are the total deaths higher in 2021 when 2020 saw the most severity? Your own statistics disprove your argument

Multiple reasons:

1. Covid is seasonal, the virus hits the hardest during winter, but the winter of 2019/2020 was already almost over when covid escalated in Western countries in March 2020.
2. In 2020, we imposed far harsher lockdowns which brought deaths down (at an excessive economic and social cost). In particular, note that actual lockdowns reduce other sources of mortality, say traffic accidents, bar brawls etc.
3. By 2021, people were sick and tired of covid restrictions and took more risks.
4. The YoY increase from 2020 to 2021 of 80k deaths is in line with the long-standing trend of increasing mortality in an aging society.
5. In 2021 and 2022, you had some after-effects from the covid lockdowns. Stuff like people not going to their cancer screening or missing early signs of a heart failure. Or elderly folks who entered rapid mental and physical decline as a result of the months of isolation in their locked-down nursing homes.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 10:12am)
The same pattern is found in countries all around the world, so they've either been all faking their numbers in a coordinated effort, or maybe there was indeed excess mortality during the covid years?!
Also, the whole premise is ridiculous. To keep up any semblance of consistency, the nefarious governments would have to revise their own population figures down below their actual level, which would in turn clash with data from local governments, from private insurers, from the IRS and so on and forth. Your conspiracy theory would require thousands of people to be in the know and not spill the beans.

Could the government fake a few thousand deaths which didn't actually occur without anyone noticing? Yes. Can they fake more than a million deaths above baseline without anyone noticing? Hell no.




Multiple reasons:

1. Covid is seasonal, the virus hits the hardest during winter, but the winter of 2019/2020 was already almost over when covid escalated in Western countries in March 2020.
2. In 2020, we imposed far harsher lockdowns which brought deaths down (at an excessive economic and social cost). In particular, note that actual lockdowns reduce other sources of mortality, say traffic accidents, bar brawls etc.
3. By 2021, people were sick and tired of covid restrictions and took more risks.
4. The YoY increase from 2020 to 2021 of 80k deaths is in line with the long-standing trend of increasing mortality in an aging society.
5. In 2021 and 2022, you had some after-effects from the covid lockdowns. Stuff like people not going to their cancer screening or missing early signs of a heart failure. Or elderly folks who entered rapid mental and physical decline as a result of the months of isolation in their locked-down nursing homes.


You're engaging in what is called "hand waving" in my discipline of chemistry. A bunch of mental gymnastics and semi-plausible assertions with no hard evidence to support your initial assumption.

My reasoning is very simple:

1) We know the regime lies about everything. That is the principle assumption. We surely both agree on this.

2) If they lie about everything, they are also willing to lie about public statistics

3) How a regime works is to get thousands of people to operate and collaborate with the big lie together. Otherwise, they will be persecuted using the law, OR outright killed (Hillary Clinton does this all the time, Seth Rich was murdered because he was a whistleblower). So yes, thousands of people ARE collaborating in the lies together. Whistleblowers get killed or thrown in prison, and slandered as crazy people by the media.

You're a fool to believe regime statistics, period. It is no different from the Soviet Union and probably worse at this point. And the regime has hegemony all across the world, multiple vassal states collaborate as well.

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Fake regime statistics

Even if you assume the numbers are true, you're drawing a causation here based on nothing but a correlation with Covid. We've been getting more and more unhealthy by the year, accelerating rapidly, trans insanity and body positivity have gone through the roof. You don't think body positivity and gay sh*t could be a factor in increased mortality? You are aware that sodomy cultivates and spreads mortal diseases? How about the unhinged black violence that has spiked since the 2020 BLM pogroms?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljpHugKNcoI

Covid death count was a complete scam. Keep in mind, above video is a black Harvard educated director of health in liberal Chiraq. Can't possibly spin it as republican/right wing bias.

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Yup.

People who are still brainwashed patsies of the regime will find some way to mental gymnastic their way through this.

Fat and/or old and/or unhealthy people died. Groundbreaking. The effects of having the flu make the risk of death high for those who are fat and/or old and/or unhealthy. Groundbreaking!
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