so what is the root cause of the issue?

as to the latter half of the sentence i never said saying white man bad would change anything, i said change might change something, if we can bear the costs.

There is no single cause to rule them all but it's abundantly obvious social and economic issues as a result of the breakdown of the family unit are exponentially more important than criminal justice reforms or police interactions or any other single reason. It's the key driver to poverty, it's the key driver to discipline or lack thereof.

It's really difficult to externalize this fact though, it's much easier go after low-hanging fruit like CJ reform even though if we were to do a regression analysis, we'd see the former being much much important.

And why has the Black family unit broken down? Could it be the over incarceration of Black men for the last 150 years? Guess what that ties back to? CJ reform.

"Liberals" fault obviously. We could still have blacks in boxes working for free in the white man factories. Not saying, just suggesting.

the govt can enact policy to change police behavior or sentencing guidelines.

the govt cannot enact policy to shotgun wedding black males to their out of wedlock children.

its almost like the govt has limits, and the media is lobbying the govt to act within those limits.

but im glad you're wildly pro abortion as a means for the black population to tamper the more important factor as you identified it.

maybe one should ask the question beyond the question as to why nuclear family occurrence differs by race. same with divorce rates.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 23 2023 01:13pm

Yeah but the music is FIRE! jacksonville drill is the best music coming out of america right now.
Foolio and 6 block are racking up most of those bodies AND bangers.

Look at this pathetic cuck trying to take away responsibility from the criminals.]

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Feb 23 2023 01:25pm

the root cause of black crime is black culture. Rap music, drill music, glorification of violence, demeaning of women as bitches and hoes, contempt for education, I can go on and on.

The argument that "racism" is the cause is flat out bullshit, as the East Asian demographic also experiences widespread racism yet they routinely succeed because of their culture. Their cultural value of decency, manners, respect for education, & family units.

I don't understand why many people try so hard to avoid this extremely simple observation. You can normalize crime with socioeconomic status and come up with the same result, black people commit more crime.

In 1970's non-martial births for blacks were in the ~35% range. Today they are around 65%. We as a society are getting less racist and less likely to cage someone just because their skin color. For your theory to hold true as we are getting less racist, less likely to unfairly incarcerate blacks the trend of non-marital births would be trending downwards no? Instead it doubled in the last 50 years. Idk maybe you think we're somehow more racist today than in the 1970's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure#/media/File:Nonmarital_Birth_Rates_in_the_United_States,_1940-2014.png




The government by enlarging the welfare program, in some ways made two parent households optional. That's why if you overlay the graph I posted above with a chart of welfare spending since the 60s you'll see a very similar pattern. This isn't just true for blacks but true for all races as is evidenced above.

Now I'm not here to argue against fighting poverty through the expansion of the social welfare program because frankly that's jus too complex of a topic and not my initial point.

I'm pro-family and pro-critical thinking, not simply defaulting to the popular du jour safe take of why things are they way they are.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Feb 23 2023 01:36pm

It does link back to that but at this point there is so much else going on, the issue in jacksonville florida is they have generational gangs at this point, kids born on certain blocks just have zero chance of a future outside of gang life, ill give some examples.
KSOO is a jacksonville drill rapper, raised in a gang by his father blue who was a gang leader and murderer who is now testifying against his own son for murder, he killed foolio's little brother.
Foolio was 9 years old when his father was killed in a gang fight, he was born into espn 6 block gang and was shot getting off his school bus at 14, he stopped going to school and started gang banging full time, he killed KSOO's older brother and 2 of his closest friends.
Foolios gangs entire adult leadership were locked up on a Rico leaving the kids to run the operation.
Bibby was foolio's little brother, he had already caught a body at 15 when he was killed by ksoo at 16.
Youngeen ace was KSOO's best friend, he killed foolio's cousin Zion brown, foolio killed aces little brother and both of his best friends when his gang sprayed their car down with hundreds of rounds from draco's on their way home from a birthday lunch, ace survived with 6 bullets in him, 3 people died. Ace was born into the same gang KSOO was and his father also died to gang violence.

These people are born into gangs and kill based on street codes at this point, how do you rehabilitate some one who has caught 5 bodies before they are legally an adult?
How do you educate kids who are getting shot on the school bus?
These two gangs are just the most known and violent, Y&R and 12 block are doing the same stuff, with guys like spinnerbenz and mookie in and out of jail and drilling every chance they get.
These kids are either in the studio working or out "spinning the opps block" trying to find someone to shoot.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Feb 23 2023 02:10pm