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Feb 8 2023 05:44pm
Quote (El1te @ Feb 8 2023 06:43pm)
I don't really follow and new age teachings but it really did occur to me that "mindfulness" has always been around and is actually the first commandment. It's because Christian teaching has been so inadequate that very few understand the meaning of the first commandment.


Neah try to find the word mindfulness in the king James version bible


It doesn't exist.


Neither does peace without god .
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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 8 2023 03:42pm)
proven according to whom? you? you dont know, you believe. there is an immeasurable difference between knowing and believing
you dont know that your God is the God


no not according to me, according really to the entire laity of the Catholic Church over 1 billion people edit: raise that number to 2+ billion when you include the Eastern orthodoxy and protestant orthodoxy

ask yourself how anything is proven. It's through a manuscript detailing the proof. Same as the proof for any other scientific theory.

You can choose to not read Einstein's manuscripts, and yell at the sky saying that "relativity isn't proven, its just words in a book"!

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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 8 2023 06:32pm)
bro theres literally hundreds of thousands of books about thousands of different Gods...many are as old or older than the bible, what makes yours the one true God?
reading about something in a book doesnt make it real or true


There's a lot of copy of Diablo out there.

Like path of exile, torch light



Those are Buddhism and Islam



Just fake
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Feb 8 2023 05:46pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 8 2023 03:44pm)
Neah try to find the word mindfulness in the king James version bible


It doesn't exist.


Neither does peace without god .


Like i've been saying.... the word doesn't matter, the idea does.

The KJV version is just a translation by the way. You should know that the New Testament was written in Koine Greek.

So, no english words appear whatsoever in the new testament.
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Feb 8 2023 05:48pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 8 2023 03:45pm)
There's a lot of copy of Diablo out there.

Like path of exile, torch light



Those are Buddhism and Islam



Just fake


to truly understand The Bible, you must first learn Koine Greek. Most popes (any respectable one) are fluent in it
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Feb 8 2023 05:51pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 9 2023 12:18am)
The secrets of the universe are hidden in the Bible.


Like who made the world? Why do things happen?


Who said the someone "made" the world? Maybe someone has, maybe not.

Why do things happen? What do you mean...why? You mean what the purpose is? Who told you there is an objective purpose in anything?

You see, the bible just pulls sort of an explanation for everything out of its ass which has no way to be verified in any way at all.
The bible explains things we dont understand with other things we do not understand just to be able to claim:

"We know it."

The reason why we as humans evolved so fast from cavemen to rocket scientists is basically just because we learned to except a few simple words:

"I don't know".

I am sure you have of course heard of theories like the big bang theory or the theory of relativity by Einstein.

Both are not proven to be right in the sense of 100% undeniably true.
They are "just" theories, as the name would suggest. Bit what is a theory? Fairy Tales? Bullshit? A Hoax?
Nope. A theory is a pretty strong argument. Its very far away from Fairy Tales. It means that those things can be explained on a theoretical level. Not proven. But there is a recreational scientifically understandable path that leads to those explanations and thats why those are taken serious on a scientific level. In other words: Those things could be true on a verifiable, understandable scale.

Might still not be true, but certainly could to be true - and is even pretty likely to be true in a lot of cases - based on what we know today.

The claims of the bible are not even close to being called a theory. Its just stories. Stories are far from anything we would ever seriously consider to be true.
Religion is sort of the exception to that rule, its the only fairy tale believed by millions of people without evidence and the reason is wishful thinking and upbringing over dozens of generations.
People hope and therefor in many cases even force themselves to believe that their own Religion is the true one because they are often raised in a certain way.
They are not able to find sense and purpose within their own lives without guidance from that wished and hoped outside omnipotent force. They wish for an eternal existence in eternal happiness. No one wants to die, no one wants to be erased out of existence, I understand that.

But all those wishes dont make god anymore true. It think god is nothing more than a very comforting thought.
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Feb 8 2023 05:53pm
Quote (El1te @ Feb 8 2023 06:48pm)
to truly understand The Bible, you must first learn Koine Greek. Most popes (any respectable one) are fluent in it


Incorrect. All languages can learn the bible without Greek. Let's focus on English


Let me ask u now what is the best English version


Words do matter. John chapter 1. The word was god.
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Feb 8 2023 03:51pm)
Who said the someone "made" the world? Maybe someone has, maybe not.

Why do things happen? What do you mean...why? You mean what the purpose is? Who told you there is an objective purpose in anything?

You see, the bible just pulls sort of an explanation for everything out of its ass which has no way to be verified in any way at all.
The bible explains things we dont understand with other things we do not understand just to be able to claim:

"We know it."

The reason why we as humans evolved so fast from cavemen to rocket scientists is basically just because we learned to except a few simple words:

"I don't know".

I am sure you have of course heard of theories like the big bang theory or the theory of relativity by Einstein.

Both are not proven to be right in the sense of 100% undeniably true.
They are "just" theories, as the name would suggest. Bit what is a theory? Fairy Tales? Bullshit? A Hoax?
Nope. A theory is a pretty strong argument. Its very far away from Fairy Tales. It means that those things can be explained on a theoretical level. Not proven. But there is a recreational scientifically understandable path that leads to those explanations and thats why those are taken serious on a scientific level. In other words: Those things could be true on a verifiable, understandable scale.

Might still not be true, but certainly could to be true - and is even pretty likely to be true in a lot of cases - based on what we know today.

The claims of the bible are not even close to being called a theory. Its just stories. Stories are far from anything we would ever seriously consider to be true.
Religion is sort of the exception to that rule, its the only fairy tale believed by millions of people without evidence and the reason is wishful thinking and upbringing over dozens of generations.
People hope and therefor in many cases even force themselves to believe that their own Religion is the true one because they are often raised in a certain way.
They are not able to find sense and purpose within their own lives without guidance from that wished and hoped outside omnipotent force. They wish for an eternal existence in eternal happiness. No one wants to die, no one wants to be erased out of existence, I understand that.

But all those wishes dont make god anymore true. It think god is nothing more than a very comforting thought.


you should read the works of Augustine and Aquinas. It may appear like the themes in the Bible are "pulled out of their ass", but you have that perception only because you do not understand what it means or where it came from.

This is where the works of great scholars over thousands of years clarify this for people.
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Feb 8 2023 06:51pm)
Who said the someone "made" the world? Maybe someone has, maybe not.

Why do things happen? What do you mean...why? You mean what the purpose is? Who told you there is an objective purpose in anything?

You see, the bible just pulls sort of an explanation for everything out of its ass which has no way to be verified in any way at all.
The bible explains things we dont understand with other things we do not understand just to be able to claim:

"We know it."

The reason why we as humans evolved so fast from cavemen to rocket scientists is basically just because we learned to except a few simple words:

"I don't know".

I am sure you have of course heard of theories like the big bang theory or the theory of relativity by Einstein.

Both are not proven to be right in the sense of 100% undeniably true.
They are "just" theories, as the name would suggest. Bit what is a theory? Fairy Tales? Bullshit? A Hoax?
Nope. A theory is a pretty strong argument. Its very far away from Fairy Tales. It means that those things can be explained on a theoretical level. Not proven. But there is a recreational scientifically understandable path that leads to those explanations and thats why those are taken serious on a scientific level. In other words: Those things could be true on a verifiable, understandable scale.

Might still not be true, but certainly could to be true - and is even pretty likely to be true in a lot of cases - based on what we know today.

The claims of the bible are not even close to being called a theory. Its just stories. Stories are far from anything we would ever seriously consider to be true.
Religion is sort of the exception to that rule, its the only fairy tale believed by millions of people without evidence and the reason is wishful thinking and upbringing over dozens of generations.
People hope and therefor in many cases even force themselves to believe that their own Religion is the true one because they are often raised in a certain way.
They are not able to find sense and purpose within their own lives without guidance from that wished and hoped outside omnipotent force. They wish for an eternal existence in eternal happiness. No one wants to die, no one wants to be erased out of existence, I understand that.

But all those wishes dont make god anymore true. It think god is nothing more than a very comforting thought.


Someone made the world...


How did u think the world came to be? The big Bang explosion?
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Feb 8 2023 05:55pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 8 2023 03:53pm)
Incorrect. All languages can learn the bible without Greek. Let's focus on English


Let me ask u now what is the best English version


Words do matter. John chapter 1. The word was god.


I would say the best English version is the NIV, since it is translated to modern English which can be clearly understood by people

Old English (KJV) is a rats nest of understanding. It's old English that no one in the modern era apart from English language scholars can understand
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