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Nov 19 2022 12:04pm
Quote (Vastet @ Nov 19 2022 09:46am)
You just haven't said anything worth responding to. It's like you just learned that companies tend to give biased data that supports their product to increase sales. As I have absolutely no investment of any kind in any vaccine or pharmaceutical company, and am still waiting for the once prerequisite 10 year waiting period on testing of new medications to peruse the data collected over that 10 year period, I have nothing to say about the original post.


Lmfao. You know how many times I've seen this response? Not worth responding to yet you type this mini essay. Essentially you have no argument. Thanks for proving that.

This is like a 2nd grader saying "I know the answer but I'm not going to tell you what it is" when in reality they're just trying to sound like they're above the other person in order to conceal that they don't know anything.

This post was edited by tugofpeace on Nov 19 2022 12:11pm
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Nov 19 2022 12:06pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 19 2022 09:51am)
But they’re numbers you pulled out of nowhere …
Can you do the same with real data (vaccination rates, positive cases, hospitalization rates, deaths, etc.)?


I made up the numbers because otherwise we would be looking at numbers like 44,565 which would make the math more difficult to follow for you guys.

If I used official Pfizer data I would get exactly the same end result. Not sure why this is even a question, anyone who knows basic algebra would understand this.
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Nov 19 2022 12:11pm
3 sentences is an essay now? My how the education system has fallen.
Also, I literally just told you I have no argument to make here. Talk to me in 8 years or so and that may change.
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Nov 19 2022 12:12pm
Quote (Vastet @ Nov 19 2022 12:11pm)
3 sentences is an essay now? My how the education system has fallen.
Also, I literally just told you I have no argument to make here. Talk to me in 8 years or so and that may change.


If you have no argument to what I posted, why are you commenting in this thread?

Derp de derp de derp
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Nov 19 2022 12:14pm
Because I had something to say about a different post. Do try to keep up.
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Nov 19 2022 12:30pm
Quote (tugofpeace @ Nov 19 2022 07:41am)
So 4 pages and all I see are deflections.. lmao. Should've known.

"You"re bad at math"
"You don't know statistics"
"You're a conspiracy theorist"

Meanwhile all I posted is middle school level math that takes 2 minutes to comprehend and subsequently disprove if I'm wrong (I'm not).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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Nov 19 2022 12:42pm
Quote (tugofpeace @ Nov 19 2022 01:06pm)
I made up the numbers because otherwise we would be looking at numbers like 44,565 which would make the math more difficult to follow for you guys.

If I used official Pfizer data I would get exactly the same end result. Not sure why this is even a question, anyone who knows basic algebra would understand this.



Your opening post is about the vaccine effectiveness according to Pfizer - you make no mention of the real effectiveness based on observable data and only calculate a result based on "ifs".

Your math is correct, it’s just meaningless.
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Nov 19 2022 12:48pm
Quote (Vastet @ Nov 19 2022 04:37pm)
You certainly are extremely stupid. And also still wrong.


"You're wrong because I say so."

You sure showed me m8. Very nice demonstration.
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Nov 19 2022 12:58pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 19 2022 12:42pm)
Your opening post is about the vaccine effectiveness according to Pfizer - you make no mention of the real effectiveness based on observable data and only calculate a result based on "ifs".

Your math is correct, it’s just meaningless.


My premise on relative risk reduction is not meaningless. The numbers I have used could be switched with Pfizers actual trial data and I would've gotten the same relative risk reduction. Those numbers are based on real world observable data, are they not?
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Nov 19 2022 12:59pm
Quote (Sioux @ Nov 19 2022 12:30pm)


Yes, everyone in this thread who has thrown insults or otherwise deflected from answering the initial question directly is a straw man. Thanks for clarifying.
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