The most satisfying election loss I've seen since Trump got beat.

This is my unanswered quote directed at OP.



I would ask you the same questions.
It is blatantly obvious OP created this topic to say, “ha ha people really like this one and she lost to somebody nobody actually likes.”

My favorite quote of hers, paraphrased, is "any McCain voters in here, GTFO", and she went on to lose the election, lol. What a dope.

So I am guessing you too are basically uninformed on both campaigns.

Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You proved you heard a msnbc snip of one candidate saying something. Seems pretty uninformed no matter how arrogant your reply.

Is this where you pretend Lake was a reasonable person of some sort?

This is where I put the phone down and go to work, leaving this conversation with somebody who doesn’t really care about this race, just doesn’t want anybody with an R next to their name to win an election.

And yes, I truly believe Lake is a great person who actually wanted to do good things for her state.

Please respond by answering my initial questions to you, or not at all.

Kari Lake is a uber-filtered weirdo who would never have a chance in a serious Republican party.

I think the results of the election prove more people in AZ prefer hobbs over lake. Kari lake said it best herself. "People of az know BS when they see it" and the votes prove the people of az know kari lake is bs.

What do I personally like about hobbs compared to lake?

#1 she served over 10 years in AZ legislature and actually has relatable job experience. She fully understands how bills become laws and how the process of state government works. As a news reporter for the past 3 decades, does kari lake have the same level of understanding? Doubtful...this is not just a kari lake issue either- there are dozens of other democrats and republicans in high positions (Ralph Warnock, tommy tubberville, etc) who had zero political experience...I think you should work your way up. Start in local government, then state, then federal...have some experience in the job you are going for

#2 her background as a social worker. Worked with the homeless. Worked in domestic violence shelters. Understamds these issues and the policies that hinder progression in these places. Lake talked alot about the homeless problem in AZ but what experience does she have dealing with them? Does she have any understanding at all about the struggles homeless people have? She talk a lot but there is a huge difference between talk and action. One of the main things I dislike about lake is all the talking she does about "the radical left".. what has she done at all on a local or state level to change any of the issues she has with "the radical left" other than being a news reporter. If you have an issue, work towards policy change like hobbs has done in the state legislature. Hobbs joined the state legislature because of the policy issues she saw during her time as a social worker.

#3 abortion rights. Hobbs believes in women's right to choose. Lake believes in zero abortion at all costs - even in cases of rape and incest - and wants to prosecute doctors who provide women with reproductive rights care. The government and politicians shouldn't have a right to choose what a women does with her pregnancy. I am not pro abortion but I am pro the right of a woman and her family to choose what is best for their own body and future. If they have an abortion that is something they will carry the rest of their life, but it should be their right to decide what's best for themselves. Not a politician

#4 climate. Hobbs is pro clean energy and zero emissions future. Lake has said nothing about climate change or clean energy so I can only assume she cares nothing about the future of the planet

#5 election denialism and Maga politics. America first politics...when I think of America first politics I think about how trump wanted to pull us out of NATO. Look at what happened yesterday with the missile that landed in Poland. NATO countries are all in discussion right now. I believe partnerships with other countries are important. America first policies pretty much want to give the middle finger to our partners, pull funding from Ukraine, etc...America needs strong partners on the world stage and anybody who is against that I don't support

#6 division. Lake is doing nothing to unite. Sooo sick of politicians who are sooo angry and so far left or right. not doing anything to find some middle ground. How about we vote somebody in who isn't going to cause further division and anger in this country?

Climate, woman's rights, police brutality, Marijuana reform, election denial/casting doubt on democracy, and immigration (I'm pro immigration btw - every single one of our ancestors was an immigrant to America unless your native american) are the issues im most concerned about when i vote. I do think the immigration system is broken, but i dont think the solution is building a wall. Nobody has the solution but it must be a policy solution bc a wall wont stop it or slow it down. You think people who travel over 1000 miles will be stopped by a wall? Lol...needs to be policy change not a wall...


So I would like to throw the same question back at you since you have followed this race so closely. What do you like about lake compared to hobbs?


You act like anybody who votes Democrat is uninformed...can u believe that maybe people are just as informed as you, or more informed, but have different opinions? Imagine...

This post was edited by Beeetlejuice on Nov 16 2022 12:21pm