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Sep 27 2022 03:59pm
Quote (Djunior @ 27 Sep 2022 22:50)
Ukraine's special forces were credited with all kinds of stuff from taking back Snake Island to planting explosives in Crimea and locations deep in Russia.

From what I heard the baltic sea is very shallow at that location and the pipelines are within easy reach.

This means it's perfectly doable for a well trained group of Ukrainian saboteurs.

"Dumb shit" would be blaming the Russians blowing up their own pipeline that's basically the equivalent of them slaying the goose that lays golden eggs.


quick follow up geography question: where do you think snake island and crimea are located? the baltic sea?!

btw, this "goose that lays golden eggs" had stopped doing so - on pootin's orders btw. it's like you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about, lol. just regurgitating what russian trolls put into your facebook feed...
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Sep 27 2022 06:38pm
meanwhile also in the baltic a brand new pipeline "baltic pipe" connecting poland with norway through denmark has just been opened

weird timing to say the least regardless of what exactly happened with nordstream
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Sep 27 2022 06:56pm
russia did it

USA did it

Germany did it

Ukraine did it

false flag attack
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Sep 28 2022 04:35am
Quote (NEEDdemRARES @ 27 Sep 2022 23:22)
Russia blew up its cash cow? For what?

Does anyone believe this narrative?


To increase gas prices. They need money for war and social spendings. Nordstream is just one of several pipelines in Europe.
Putin could do it to blame USA too and increase tensions between USA and Germany.

Or it could be Norway, who are trying to increase prices too.

Or anybody, as a warning terrorist attack, like Somalian pirates?

Or USA, as a warning to Putin, that they arent going to let him eat Europe.

This is all just speculation, I dont know, lol.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Sep 28 2022 04:39am
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Sep 28 2022 04:37am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 28 Sep 2022 02:38)
meanwhile also in the baltic a brand new pipeline "baltic pipe" connecting poland with norway through denmark has just been opened

weird timing to say the least regardless of what exactly happened with nordstream


There were many guests on the opening, like important politicans, date was fixed for months already.
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Sep 28 2022 06:16am
Quote (Ironfister @ Sep 28 2022 12:37pm)
There were many guests on the opening, like important politicans, date was fixed for months already.


sure, the date was fixed for a long time obviously, the contracts were signed in 2017 iirc

it does not change the timing and the circumstances

attacks on the german economy are not exactly new and that pipeline conflict in the baltic has been going on for a while

the US and poland were by far the biggest enemies of the nordstream projects, instead of getting gas through existing pipelines poland went through the trouble of building their own with denmark to get norwegian gas directly

just when that infrastructure goes "online" german pipelines to russia get blown up

which means that germany is fully dependent on US gas, gas that goes through poland (billions of transit bucks for them) or they can even sell some spare gas on a premium, if we are desperate enough

the US and poland are the only big winners here, coincidences like that dont exist
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Sep 28 2022 07:16am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 28 Sep 2022 14:16)
sure, the date was fixed for a long time obviously, the contracts were signed in 2017 iirc

it does not change the timing and the circumstances

attacks on the german economy are not exactly new and that pipeline conflict in the baltic has been going on for a while

the US and poland were by far the biggest enemies of the nordstream projects, instead of getting gas through existing pipelines poland went through the trouble of building their own with denmark to get norwegian gas directly

just when that infrastructure goes "online" german pipelines to russia get blown up

which means that germany is fully dependent on US gas, gas that goes through poland (billions of transit bucks for them) or they can even sell some spare gas on a premium, if we are desperate enough

the US and poland are the only big winners here, coincidences like that dont exist


How much gas was passing through nord stream lately? Like 0.
That's the reason Poland built a pipeline to Norway.
For independence from Russia.
Nord Stream was one of the means for Russia to attack and conquer eastern Europe.
Now lets talk about german actions.
First you guys refused Ukraine into NATO, and now we are expecting nukes launched in Ukraine in some days.
24th february wouldnt happen if you guys simply accepted Ukraine into NATO 15 years ago. Putin wouldnt risk attacking NATO.
Then when Poland asked for some tanks, you guys offered 1 tank per month. 3rd exporter in the world can only make 1tank per month for your friend and ally, who is at risk. Its not a real offer.
Honestly I dont know what you guys do, but it aint looking good.
You are doing some strange politics my friend, german actions kind of leave us no other way than to be friends with USA.
Its all not good for EU.
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Sep 28 2022 07:35am
We'll probably never know for sure. It was probably the one that profits the most from blaming/speculations.
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Sep 28 2022 07:40am
Quote (thesnipa @ 27 Sep 2022 17:28)
russia deserved it


This is not the interest of any party actually
Or atleast thats what i believe
But maybe someone more knowledgable has other guesses
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Sep 28 2022 08:39am
Quote (Ognadibik @ 28 Sep 2022 15:40)
This is not the interest of any party actually
Or atleast thats what i believe
But maybe someone more knowledgable has other guesses


If you ask me it was USA response to recent Putin illegal and crime actions: mobilization and annexation part of Ukraine.
Something like a message: "see, we launched a bomb next to your pipeline, if you launch nukes on Ukraine we will launch a bomb next to your head"

Just an idea though, it could have been anybody.
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