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Sep 21 2022 01:27pm
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When I read "sex life" I think specifically what happens in the bedroom. When it's really all the time, which is why I didn't understand what you were saying.

Like I said, it needs to be a decision made in light of the evidence with the parents, children, and doctor. This is one of those things that are best left alone to the experts and individuals. Not something we as a broader society really have a right to ban. If a doctor says "my assesment of this patient is that the procedure wouldn't help" that's fine (not on religious grounds). If the parents say "we aren't comfortable with the risks", that's fine too. If the parents, doctor, and child are all on board and they've been properly explained the risks, that's fine too.


so just hypothetically:

1. should a court ever be able to overrule 2 parents in solidarity not to do the surgery?

2. should a court ever be able to side with a parent who wants it against a parent who doesn't?

just for me personally, a doctor and your parents deciding if the risks your whole lifetime of sex being ruined are worth it rings as so icky. even if the risks are overstated.
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Sep 21 2022 01:31pm
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so just hypothetically:

1. should a court ever be able to overrule 2 parents in solidarity not to do the surgery?

2. should a court ever be able to side with a parent who wants it against a parent who doesn't?

just for me personally, a doctor and your parents deciding if the risks your whole lifetime of sex being ruined are worth it rings as so icky. even if the risks are overstated.


We already do that to a lesser degree with circumcision.

It comes down to the individual and the assessment. The answer to virtually any "ever" question is yes because medicine is very rarely cookie cutter and needs to be made on the merits of the case.
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So a dishonest grifter brought a ton of attention to a place that was sure to incite hateful responses and they took the website down for a while.

Lol k. They're definitely trying to cover it up and not just waiting for it to blow over.

Walsh is in the same camp of retarded grifters as Rubin and Crowder.



Haha you’re just so mad he makes you look like the beta soy boy scum you are
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Sep 21 2022 01:49pm
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We already do that to a lesser degree with circumcision.

It comes down to the individual and the assessment. The answer to virtually any "ever" question is yes because medicine is very rarely cookie cutter and needs to be made on the merits of the case.


True, if horrific side effects of circumcision were at the percents i see some studies suggest for gender reassignment i'd be anti-circumcision.

as it is a small percent of people have any negative side effects, and a small percentage of them have actual debilitating side effects. slightly lowered sensation make up almost the whole pie chart on that topic, and we can only judge it based on adults who get it late in life.
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Sep 21 2022 02:14pm
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True, if horrific side effects of circumcision were at the percents i see some studies suggest for gender reassignment i'd be anti-circumcision.

as it is a small percent of people have any negative side effects, and a small percentage of them have actual debilitating side effects. slightly lowered sensation make up almost the whole pie chart on that topic, and we can only judge it based on adults who get it late in life.



Cir-Cum-Cision or emasculating male sexuality.

its done to weaken energy charka so succubi have easier time gaining sexual fluids which may play out like ya gotta watch pron or splooge outside the body w/ help of a "lover" or wife.

these same sexual deities wrote scripture talking about pledging allegiance to them via this old testament practice.
it makes men weaker on two fronts: taking away their natural protection & natural means to "bop their baloney" w/o silicone or synthetic chemicals being involved.

obviously by messing or calcifying sensitive glands it actively encourages rougher sexuality & or compensation via sodomitic practices.
They use these sexual tissues for elite beauty products moreoever.

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Sep 21 2022 02:17pm
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True, if horrific side effects of circumcision were at the percents i see some studies suggest for gender reassignment i'd be anti-circumcision.

as it is a small percent of people have any negative side effects, and a small percentage of them have actual debilitating side effects. slightly lowered sensation make up almost the whole pie chart on that topic, and we can only judge it based on adults who get it late in life.


Ultimately, the one to make the decision isn't us. Part of medical autonomy is giving people options and guiding them through the process to choose the one that's right to them.

There's rarely a reason to outright deny somebody a treatment unless it just won't help, or there's a treatment that's better in every way available.
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Ultimately, the one to make the decision isn't us. Part of medical autonomy is giving people options and guiding them through the process to choose the one that's right to them.

There's rarely a reason to outright deny somebody a treatment unless it just won't help, or there's a treatment that's better in every way available.


while that's true there are multiple complicating factors that make this not congruent with almost all other medical decisions made between doctors and parents/children.

the most similar thing i can think of is a parent and child deciding to get a nosejob done to avoid bullying. or maybe a higher risk surgery for a child to potentially not need a colostomy bag.

this really just doesnt follow most of the typical healthcare choices parents have to make for their children.

and we're still not addressing the elephant in the room, unlike hormone therapy there's very little risk in waiting. if a child has a support group as a trans teen, hormone therapy, etc. their risk of suicide is already drastically lowered. meaning they can likely wait. if they dont have those the parents already wont sign off on reassignment surgery, so its a moot point.
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Sep 21 2022 02:37pm
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while that's true there are multiple complicating factors that make this not congruent with almost all other medical decisions made between doctors and parents/children.

the most similar thing i can think of is a parent and child deciding to get a nosejob done to avoid bullying. or maybe a higher risk surgery for a child to potentially not need a colostomy bag.

this really just doesnt follow most of the typical healthcare choices parents have to make for their children.

and we're still not addressing the elephant in the room, unlike hormone therapy there's very little risk in waiting. if a child has a support group as a trans teen, hormone therapy, etc. their risk of suicide is already drastically lowered. meaning they can likely wait. if they dont have those the parents already wont sign off on reassignment surgery, so its a moot point.


If the data shows that hormone therapy then waiting until they are adults gets better results, then there's exceedingly few cases where a competent physician would recommend this course of action regardless.

If it's really a moot point then there's very little reason to talk about it. It's going to come out that way as standard practice as evidence-based decision making comes into play.

We should let those who are most equipped to interpret the evidence (physicians) consult with those in the individual circumstance (parents and children) to facilitate them making the best decision.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 21 2022 02:38pm
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Sep 21 2022 02:52pm
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If the data shows that hormone therapy then waiting until they are adults gets better results, then there's exceedingly few cases where a competent physician would recommend this course of action regardless.

If it's really a moot point then there's very little reason to talk about it. It's going to come out that way as standard practice as evidence-based decision making comes into play.

We should let those who are most equipped to interpret the evidence (physicians) consult with those in the individual circumstance (parents and children) to facilitate them making the best decision.


Can't physicians just treat it like they treated the marijuana market. This is capitalism after all, if there's money to be made someone out there is just going to be the go to person to just say yes its the best decision no matter what indicating factors there are because it give you the best payday.

People did that with medical marijuana for a decade or more. Everyone just knew the yes doctors that would give you a card no matter what, condition or not. If you have parents not seeing the best for their child because they have an agenda they will just go to the yes doctor.

A simple lucrative practice.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 21 2022 02:52pm
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