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Sep 19 2022 11:00pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 19 Sep 2022 21:58)
The ONLY reason to use deadly force is if deadly force is being used against you and you have no ability to retreat, or if retreating would cause an imminent danger to the public. Him grabbing for a knife when they approach the vehicle is NOT one of those scenarios.

Cops are not judge jury and executioner. Ideally cops who over-step their bounds on force should be executed themselves, but cop apologists will make sure they keep getting away with it.


This is what defund the police is really about, it isn't some call for anarchy, but instead to diversify the services police offer by funding a social worker who can come out instead of the police which only have one, necessary tool... which is force.

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Sep 19 2022 11:04pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Sep 19 2022 11:58pm)
You know those officers have been indicted for lying right?

On August 4, 2022, the United States Department of Justice announced that it had indicted three police officers—Kelly Goodlett, Joshua Jaynes and Kyle Meany—on charges of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and civil rights violations for conspiring to mislead the judge who approved the search warrant on Kenneth Walker's house. Detective Brett Hankison, one of the officers who participated in the raid, was also charged with civil rights violations.

Go ahead and keep believing their side of the story about who shot first.



So the fact that the political climate lead to a civil rights case means the entire timeline of what happened is now different?

Like I said bro, I affirm your feelings about how you feel about what you have been told. We live in two completely different worlds. I am going to continue playing city skylines and enjoying my night off.

Holler if you want to buy the remainder of my HCL crap. Slim pickings left. Check out my ft list https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96438595&f=123
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This is what defund the police is really about, it isn't some call for anarchy, but instead to diversify the services police offer by funding a social worker who can come out instead of the police which only have one, necessary tool... which is force.


Yeah but god, it's such bad branding.

It should be something like "free the police".
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Sep 19 2022 11:18pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 19 2022 11:58pm)
The ONLY reason to use deadly force is if deadly force is being used against you and you have no ability to retreat, or if retreating would cause an imminent danger to the public. Him grabbing for a knife when they approach the vehicle is NOT one of those scenarios.

Cops are not judge jury and executioner. Ideally cops who over-step their bounds on force should be executed themselves, but cop apologists will make sure they keep getting away with it.


You know we don't agree on a lot but it's nice to see that we at least have a sense of right and wrong. The same can't be said about some of these people.
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Sep 19 2022 11:34pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 19 2022 10:04pm)
So the fact that the political climate lead to a civil rights case means the entire timeline of what happened is now different?

Like I said bro, I affirm your feelings about how you feel about what you have been told. We live in two completely different worlds. I am going to continue playing city skylines and enjoying my night off.

Holler if you want to buy the remainder of my HCL crap. Slim pickings left. Check out my ft list https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96438595&f=123



Yea because being so afraid and threatened after a couple hours they decided it was of utmost safety to shoot a guy inside his car
There is absolutely nothing political about. The cops were wrong and should serve time
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Sep 19 2022 11:52pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 20 2022 12:34am)
Yea because being so afraid and threatened after a couple hours they decided it was of utmost safety to shoot a guy inside his car
There is absolutely nothing political about. The cops were wrong and should serve time
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They cut out the entire scene you have no idea what happened based on this video.

The only information we have is guy brandished a weapon as soon as it was time to remove him from car.

None of us have enough info to make a truly informed assessment, but based on what we do have I don’t see how anybody can say the cops just murdered a kid.
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Sep 19 2022 11:54pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 19 2022 10:52pm)
They cut out the entire scene you have no idea what happened based on this video.

The only information we have is guy brandished a weapon as soon as it was time to remove him from car.

None of us have enough info to make a truly informed assessment, but based on what we do have I don’t see how anybody can say the cops just murdered a kid.



Was he outside of his car with more than a knife?
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Sep 20 2022 12:33am
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Was he outside of his car with more than a knife?
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Sure, act like a situation where somebody lost their life is just black and white like that.

Maybe you have more information than what was presented in OP. Feel free to share.
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Sep 20 2022 01:08am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 20 2022 02:57pm)
To answer your question, no I don’t have a problem with either situations. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Live that life you better be ready to face the consequences.


I mean if you really want to go there they are basically the same situation. This white kid pulled a weapon on cops, after heavily edited video gets shot.
Cops move on an arrest warrant, announced themselves several times (sorry you didn’t know that), kicked the door in and only after being lit up by bullets and almost killed, returned fire and unfortunately hit the one who wasn’t shooting.

I am sorry but I am not having a conversation about “your facts” vs the actual facts from the court cases. I am so tired of doing that.

If it makes you feel better, I affirm your feelings of how you feel about what you have been told.


Live that life? She was a nurse.
And they didn't announce shit.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Sep 20 2022 01:09am
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Live that life? She was a nurse.
And they didn't announce shit.



Super cool story.
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