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Aug 1 2022 09:41pm
Quote (Sioux @ Aug 1 2022 08:28pm)
Doesn't matter if 98% of people haven't heard of him, the world is safer today than it was on Friday.

Edit: I wonder who's collecting the 25 million bounty


That this guy deserved to die and the world being safer aren't equivalent statements. When ISIS was around, we were definitely safer with a toothless leader of Al Qaeda who was more interested in opposing our enemies than actually attacking the west. Now that ISIS is gone, eh, there's still the issue that any potential leadership vacuum of Al Qaeda means the existing aligned networks could get taken over by more radical elements, which would be a net negative for us in the long run. Which, of course, is how ISIS was created in the first place. Zawahiri is hardly the equivalent of an Assad or Hussein who keeps the fanatics of a country in check with an iron fist, so that's not a clean comparison, but he was still a washed-up has-been more interested in opining on social issues than a radical interested in blowing up embassies anymore, so any change might not really benefit us. The best thing we can say is that any geopolitical risk from killing him is so low at this point that his personal guilt outweighs it and lets us not fret too much about killing him.

or in short, no, we're not any bit safer
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Aug 2 2022 01:58am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 2 2022 02:11am)
same thing with Trump and al-Baghdadi. It was just the military doing their normal operations, no real decision making by the president
Osama and Suleimani on the other hand involved the president having to take a risky maneuver, same as Jimmy Carter's operation eagle claw, so there's more credit for the shot calling there at least


I'd say both obama and trump had infinitely more to do with these strikes than biden, but at the end of the day, the potus will get some merits regardless.
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Aug 2 2022 04:08am
Quote (SanduLungu @ Aug 2 2022 12:58am)
I'd say both obama and trump had infinitely more to do with these strikes than biden, but at the end of the day, the potus will get some merits regardless.


even bogus potus..........
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Aug 2 2022 08:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 1 2022 09:11pm)
same thing with Trump and al-Baghdadi. It was just the military doing their normal operations, no real decision making by the president
Osama and Suleimani on the other hand involved the president having to take a risky maneuver, same as Jimmy Carter's operation eagle claw, so there's more credit for the shot calling there at least


This is untrue. Trump’s use of the military was a complete 180 of Obama.

Obama would have generals call him before making moves, sometimes saying no.

Its entirely possible that Isis would still be here under a Biden drag queen military.
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Aug 2 2022 08:16am
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 1 2022 03:53pm)
Is this a joke? He's the guy with the fucking giant beard and towel on his head.


which one ?
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Aug 2 2022 02:30pm
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-skipped-chance-kill-al-qaeda-leader-name-unfamiliar-nbc-2022-8

President Donald Trump had the chance to kill the leader of Al Qaeda but didn't because he didn't recognize the terrorist leader's name, NBC News reported in 2020.

LOL!
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Aug 2 2022 02:58pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 2 2022 02:30pm)
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-skipped-chance-kill-al-qaeda-leader-name-unfamiliar-nbc-2022-8

President Donald Trump had the chance to kill the leader of Al Qaeda but didn't because he didn't recognize the terrorist leader's name, NBC News reported in 2020.

LOL!



Fake news
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Aug 2 2022 03:01pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 2 2022 09:30pm)
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-skipped-chance-kill-al-qaeda-leader-name-unfamiliar-nbc-2022-8

President Donald Trump had the chance to kill the leader of Al Qaeda but didn't because he didn't recognize the terrorist leader's name, NBC News reported in 2020.

LOL!


Two people familiar with the briefings told NBC News that

10 / 10 credibility
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Aug 8 2022 01:29pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-appeared-overstate-role-al-122526453.html

per intelligence agencies (not nbc news), Al-zawahiri was just some rando, another warmonger who tried to pick up the mantle of 'leader' after bin Laden died. a no-mark who had nothing to do with the attacks on 9/11. this was akin to biden calling himself a truck driver.
So this doesn't even come close to undoing the botched delayed Afghanistan withdrawal.

never forget that per Robert Gates, Obama's Sec Def, "Biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/13/gates_stands_by_statement_that_biden_has_been_wrong_on_nearly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html
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Quote (excellence @ Aug 8 2022 08:29pm)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-appeared-overstate-role-al-122526453.html

per intelligence agencies (not nbc news), Al-zawahiri was just some rando, another warmonger who tried to pick up the mantle of 'leader' after bin Laden died. a no-mark who had nothing to do with the attacks on 9/11. this was akin to biden calling himself a truck driver.
So this doesn't even come close to undoing the botched delayed Afghanistan withdrawal.

never forget that per Robert Gates, Obama's Sec Def, "Biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/13/gates_stands_by_statement_that_biden_has_been_wrong_on_nearly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html


still a good kill, a muslim terrorist was eliminated.
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