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May 31 2022 10:55pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 31 2022 11:31pm)
Had the police not prevented the parents from intervening, the shooter would have been dead and fewer children would have been dead far earlier. You talk about parents "making it worse", yet it couldn't get worse. Because how were things as they stood? A shooter was able to murder 19 children, 2 teachers, as well as injuring more, without any response whatsoever after over an hour.

No matter what way you twist this, the police made the situation so much worse, factually, like, this actually happened, additional six to nine year old children were ruthlessly murdered... Over the course of a very frenetic... Hour. These are people who are keeping you at gunpoint while your children are being executed. Are you going to fight them, or cry that your children are dead?



Anything is possible. Once.


What were the parents of kids in that classroom gonna do exactly? It was a fatal funnel situation that is bad for soldiers yet alone a dingus with a handgun and zero training or body armor. Letting the parents run in would of caused more chaos and deaths PERIOD. The problem was that the police did NOTHING and that situation forced helpless parents into make suicidal choices.

Parents running in guns blazing isn't the answer here.
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May 31 2022 11:13pm
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What were the parents of kids in that classroom gonna do exactly? It was a fatal funnel situation that is bad for soldiers yet alone a dingus with a handgun and zero training or body armor. Letting the parents run in would of caused more chaos and deaths PERIOD. The problem was that the police did NOTHING and that situation forced helpless parents into make suicidal choices.

Parents running in guns blazing isn't the answer here.


Exactly who the fuck do you think you are to dictate that a parent cannot attempt to rescue their child? Seriously, sit down, shut the fuck up, and exercise some introspection. You are attempting to talk about how parents shouldn't be "allowed" the "right" to protect or save their own children. Are you a parent? Do you have children? Do you ever plan to? Tell me, how does it sound to you, "If your child is ever in danger of life and limb, you are not allowed to help protect or save them. Only the State is qualified to see to the safety of your children." Go on hot shot. Let's see your realistic answer. Fucking twit.

As to the rest, your assessment of the tactical situation is completely irrelevant. The parents were not just wanting to go in with the primary goal of taking out the shooter, but instead of saving the children. We're talking an Elementary school. Ages 5-10. These are the most innocent, vulnerable, and trusting among us. They require the most care and protection for the survival not just of our culture, or our way of life, but our very species. While Mayors and Governors and Congressmen and Presidents walk around with around the clock security, have metal detectors and body searches at the entrances of their buildings, and surround them with the absolute highest tech security on the planet, pre-pubescent children are in a completely unsecured building where teachers who might have served in special forces can't even carry a firearm, due to federal law. The kids have not just been left unprotected, they've been stripped of what potential protection they may have had.
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May 31 2022 11:15pm
Quote (Sioux @ May 31 2022 05:56pm)
3% of Americans own 50% of the guns. Also only 30% of Americans own a gun.


I'm pretty sure the "boogaloo boy" types are (correctly) claiming that they could easily just arm up any unarmed people in join their cause because they have mountains and mountains of surplus weapons.

Either way, your solution probably sucks, as it does with everything ever.
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May 31 2022 11:16pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 31 May 2022 17:09)
Cool story. And the majority support background checks and an assault weapon ban


lol no
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May 31 2022 11:25pm
Quote (Sturmgeist @ Jun 1 2022 12:16am)
lol no


lol yes
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May 31 2022 11:28pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 1 2022 12:13am)
Exactly who the fuck do you think you are to dictate that a parent cannot attempt to rescue their child? Seriously, sit down, shut the fuck up, and exercise some introspection. You are attempting to talk about how parents shouldn't be "allowed" the "right" to protect or save their own children. Are you a parent? Do you have children? Do you ever plan to? Tell me, how does it sound to you, "If your child is ever in danger of life and limb, you are not allowed to help protect or save them. Only the State is qualified to see to the safety of your children." Go on hot shot. Let's see your realistic answer. Fucking twit.

As to the rest, your assessment of the tactical situation is completely irrelevant. The parents were not just wanting to go in with the primary goal of taking out the shooter, but instead of saving the children. We're talking an Elementary school. Ages 5-10. These are the most innocent, vulnerable, and trusting among us. They require the most care and protection for the survival not just of our culture, or our way of life, but our very species. While Mayors and Governors and Congressmen and Presidents walk around with around the clock security, have metal detectors and body searches at the entrances of their buildings, and surround them with the absolute highest tech security on the planet, pre-pubescent children are in a completely unsecured building where teachers who might have served in special forces can't even carry a firearm, due to federal law. The kids have not just been left unprotected, they've been stripped of what potential protection they may have had.


I'm a person that doesn't advocate stupidity just because "parent". You gonna complain about firefighters not letting a parent climb into a burning home to get a kid that's already gone? How about EMTs that won't let a parent do pointless CPR or want to do the pulp fiction needle tot he heart after they as professionals say it over?

Nothing but chaos comes when you let a mob take control. The police failed and parents running into a school in a panic wouldn't of made it any better, but most likely worse.

You know why they have people shelter instead of break windows and run or file out into the hall and run in these situations? Because you dont have enough information as a bystander to make a safe choice. That hall could be what they are waiting for...that window breaking can draw their attention. It's a shit situation, but there are decisions that can make it worse such as those.

You can pretend life is a movie where a parent runs in and actually helps all you want, but you should know by now that scared, panicked, unorganized mobs only make matters worse.

You're an absolute moron for thinking a teacher with a gun is an answer here. Go back to Fox news and get more bad ideas.

Keep acting like firearm leniency isn't EXACTLY what let this tragedy happen. Keep humping the 2nd amendment while kids die because your side lets 18 year olds buy an Ar15 legally.
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May 31 2022 11:29pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 31 May 2022 22:25)
lol yes


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