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May 4 2022 07:43am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 4 2022 08:00am)
Here state governors will literally resign mid term and pop up in an $800,000 a year banking or executive role with a company they dealt with in their government role.


ya i wont pretend that state level or local does ONLY good work. but they do some good stuff and voting for them matters a lot more than federal reps and potus.
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May 4 2022 08:40am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 3 2022 11:43pm)
You think misinformation does not exist? Do you even understand the context being used here or are you a bot responding to trigger words?


Its a graph comparing children exposed to lead to violent crime rates when they are adults, the years are not supposed to match.


crying out "misinfo" with out some kind of reasoned argument is a bullchit tactic done by people who dont have a argument. much like calling me a bot ............its just a way out.

sliding graphs and making up reasons for it, you can begin a hypothesis, but its not automatically a fact.

of all the other things I added that you ignored which is bad science/reasoning I would still like to know why they cut the red line at 2004?

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 4 2022 02:23am)
I am saying capitalism has caused more death and human suffering than communism has, by a wide margin.
Just allowing leaded fuel to be sold for as long as it was contributed to crime rates, lowered the average iq and caused 25 million deaths.
If we were able to actually function as a society under socialist principles with strong protection in place 99% of people would be better off, i am in the 1% but almost no one else i care about is.


meh bullchit your the one changing it to deaths the graph says violent crimes

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
atheists default to totalitarianism
austraila government WEF stooges and the great leap into communism? klaus schwab and bill gates gona have you eating bugs and live in a pod.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered


Quote (duffman316 @ May 4 2022 05:43am)
Well we aren't able to because people suck. I went to walmart yesterday when it was raining hard and the amount of shopping carts left in parking spots by neandrethals was depressing.


i put my cart away :)
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May 4 2022 08:58am
Quote (TiStuff @ 3 May 2022 23:12)
hahaha "disinfo" "misinfo" no greater declaration can be made that a person hasnt the foggiest idea what he/she talking about


Feel free to check out that chemist that invented leaded gasoline suffered horrible lead poisoning and did everything they could to avoid the words "lead" in the marketing.

I didn't go into details because this really isn't a fact of contention, but a fact of record.

This post was edited by Cascadian on May 4 2022 08:59am
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May 4 2022 09:00am
On a related note i heard stalin doubled life expectancy during his time
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May 4 2022 09:21am
Quote (Cascadian @ May 4 2022 07:58am)
Feel free to check out that chemist that invented leaded gasoline suffered horrible lead poisoning and did everything they could to avoid the words "lead" in the marketing.

I didn't go into details because this really isn't a fact of contention, but a fact of record.


posts facts next time then if you want to make sense?

Quote (duffman316 @ May 4 2022 08:00am)
On a related note i heard stalin doubled life expectancy during his time


stalin dies at 74? so? average age of death in commie utopia was 37?
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May 4 2022 09:22am
Quote (TiStuff @ 4 May 2022 08:21)
posts facts next time then if you want to make sense?



stalin dies at 74? so? average age of death in commie utopia was 37?


Iit isn't my job to educate you. Do I need to define the English language before I reply to you in English as well?
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Quote (Cascadian @ May 4 2022 08:22am)
Iit isn't my job to educate you. Do I need to define the English language before I reply to you in English as well?


meh..................................your spreading disinfo................
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May 4 2022 10:33am
Quote (TiStuff @ May 4 2022 11:42am)
meh..................................your spreading disinfo................


If we looked up disinformation in a dictionary they'd have a copy of your birth cerificate in the origin
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May 4 2022 11:20am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 4 2022 03:42am)
I have been thinking on this a lot, and whenever arguments start about this people point to things like stalin's death count of 15 million.
So i started to go over some numbers due to capitalism and lack of regulation and realized tetraethyl lead killed more people than stalin and hitler combined, the tobacco industry spent decades covering up the effects of their products.. asbestos companies like james hardie did the same.
So what is the ACTUAL death toll for capitalism?


stalin murdered 23.
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May 4 2022 11:23am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 4 2022 08:17am)
All of those things were pushed in those countries by corporations under capitalism..
The free market has caused more deaths than any other single factor i can think of, lack of regulation and abundance of lobbying has caused untold misery.
It could have been possible to stop this under a better system.


Government. That's what's caused more deaths than any other in human history.
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