Turks are killing a lot of Russians on the ground in Ukraine with those sick ass drones.

Was listening to some radio program the other morning and a guest mentioned just that. Once the initial refugees from Ukraine simmers down, Russian refugees will be next.

You need to keep things on the table. Your brilliant plan not only removes negotiating leverage (carrot on a stick of removing sanctions) but also unnecessarily agitates and threatens Putin. You need to give him an "out" of some kind, otherwise he will continue to lash out, and that is not what we want.

Well... not what I want, anyway. Not sure how bloodthirsty you are.

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on Mar 7 2022 04:32pm

agreed pretty much on everything. unfortunately, in general europe never takes threats seriously until its way too late. that and all their politicians and most of ours are firmly tied to china’s economic and state-controlled “corporate” development

and to your point about making china basically be firmly in bed with russia is risky but could work out if russia collapses. the world vs china in an economic struggle where id still bet on the world.

we always mess around until its too late

3 months ago you would have been called the next adolf hitler for proposing a higher defense budget, now the chancellor from the anti military social democrats received standing ovations for 100 billion € extra military spendings

its ridiculous what we have become, as if some quick money will make 30 years of neglect disappear

What does that even has to do with anything?
Russia was 100% atheist in 1984 in 1991 it was 80% super religious. Tomorrow if needed will be atheist again on cue.
Idiot backwards country unable to create or build anything stable that would prosper in the long term, always depending on heavy political repression and corruption like no other.

Unfortunately, we have to actually live in the same world as Russia and China. We don't get the luxury of closing our borders like Japan under Sakoku. We are playing a zero sum game with China, not Russia, and when we cede our sphere of influence and kick it to their waiting arms, we're orchestrating our own doom. We had decades of third way neoliberals who collaborated with China to slowly creep their influence at our expense, like a controlled fall. Then we had Trump barge in with Navarronomics saying that we can fight China on their own terms. And all the neoliberals mislabeled and accused him of wanting to just close us off and let China win on an empty board by ceding all our global stewardship. Well here we are now, with the most distilled neoliberal purist president yet, moreso than even Obama, and what do we do? Throw away the mantle of global stewardship and hand over the reins to China uncontested. All those decades of pragmatists saying how we must compromise our highminded ideals to work with less scrupulous regimes, and especially to keep the oil flowing at all costs lest the prices blow up on the middle class. This is why I say we're in a scenario that can only be explained by western incompetence and schizophrenia, not rational self-interest.

You don't win an economic war with China by ending the petrodollar and forcing global markets to embrace the relative safety and stability of the RMB. You don't win by throwing up an Iron Curtain that puts the US and EU on one side, and Russia, China, KSA, UAE, India, Mexico, Israel, Japan, etc on the other side.

Vodka is going too btw

Buy French or American. It's been awhile since I've actually gotten stolis.

Titos or grey goose. Problem solved kekw