Quote (fender @ Feb 16 2022 02:11pm)

i mean, obviously they don't openly advertise to school shooters directly, lol - so i don't really know what you'd expect there. they do, however, market specifically to the fragile / compensating male crowd by invoking images of masculinity and power. they also do everything in their power to prevent that mentally unstable people could be excluded from obtaining firearms, and that gun violence could be researched sufficiently. you don't strike me as the person who genuinely needs help to put two and two together, and apparently you've already drawn similar conclusions and made according choices for your own store - which i find extremely commendable btw, considering it's a moral choice that hurts your own bottom line.

the main distinction i see is that you're trying to pry apart those groups, while i consider the venn diagram between wannabe badasses, law enforcement cosplayers, and insecure (bullied) kids that would turn into mass shooters largely a circle - at least when it comes their general psychological makeup and what type of imagery would appeal to them. that and the acknowledgement of centuries of political lobbying and the responsibility resulting from that.

Quote (fender @ Feb 16 2022 11:03am)

nice try to nitpick your way out of the main argument, but still a fail, l2r. i am not saying guns are entirely unregulated, i'm saying that gun manufacturers spent billions to lobby for as few regulations as possible. feel free to address the rest, oh right, you won't, because it'd topple your flimsy "frivolous lawsuit" claim...

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don't forget to accompany your sale with decades of marketing campaigns, cultivating an image of manliness and freedom for owning and using nuclear warheads, spending billions in lobbying efforts to keep those warheads legal and unregulated, as well as paying politicians to introduce legislation banning the government from funding even just research into the impact of nuclear warhead proliferation in society...

but hey, no one could reasobably conclude from all this that you had any share of responsibility, it's just capitalism at work, right? nothing objectionable...

Quote (Santara @ Feb 16 2022 02:32pm)

I read the rest of the drivel. I didn't think it merited a response, but since you're apparently desperate to have it refuted, sure.



"don't forget to accompany your sale with decades of marketing campaigns, cultivating an image of manliness and freedom" is meaningless tripe designed to appeal to feelings and not address any underlying legal issues in the dealing firearms.
"spending billions in lobbying efforts" also fails to address anything on a legal level. It's an emotional argument on your part, and I'm unconcerned with your tender sensitivities. Everyone has a right to advocate for themselves.
"as well as paying politicians to introduce legislation banning the government from funding even just research into the impact" - "just research"... whose sole purpose is to further gun control. Yeah, I don't have a problem with barring funding going to research into what is tantamount to gun control.

Quote (Santara @ 16 Feb 2022 21:32)

I read the rest of the drivel. I didn't think it merited a response, but since you're apparently desperate to have it refuted, sure.



"don't forget to accompany your sale with decades of marketing campaigns, cultivating an image of manliness and freedom" is meaningless tripe designed to appeal to feelings and not address any underlying legal issues in the dealing firearms.
"spending billions in lobbying efforts" also fails to address anything on a legal level. It's an emotional argument on your part, and I'm unconcerned with your tender sensitivities. Everyone has a right to advocate for themselves.
"as well as paying politicians to introduce legislation banning the government from funding even just research into the impact" - "just research"... whose sole purpose is to further gun control. Yeah, I don't have a problem with barring funding going to research into what is tantamount to gun control.

Quote (Sh00p @ 15 Feb 2022 20:41)

Its about fucking time one of these weapon manufacturers pays for all of the slaughter theyve caused.

The swarms of people defending murder weapons on top of the piles of childrens corpses is the most pathetic thing ive seen in america to date which is saying a lot, and proves why nobody deserves guns at all.

Quote (Sh00p @ Feb 16 2022 09:03am)

I guess if I sell nuclear warheads to terrorists im not resposible for what they might try to do with them. Maybe we should just give them the benefit of the doubt and they only want to decorate them like a festive christmas tree!