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Jan 3 2022 01:17pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 3 2022 01:13pm)
Absolutely not. Leftism doesn't "get rid of rich people." Rich people always have and always will be wherever they want to be. If you think what you're doing is opposing the hyper rich, boy are you getting duped, little owl.


Me: Literally eat the rich

You: Ha, you think you're opposing the rich?



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Jan 3 2022 01:18pm
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It was called global warming then conservatives rebranded it to climate change because it didn't sound as scary. Karl Rove in the Bush administration was specifically behind that big push.

The warning has never been "10 years from now". That's literally just conservative propaganda repeated over so much that people think it's true. Scientists have been very specific in their predictions and they have consistently underestimated the effect.

We're pretty much screwed as it is. The aquafer that supplies the entire western half of the U.S. and the Colorado River are drying up. Goodbye the whole Western U.S.'s source of fresh water.


If Karl Rove during the Bush administration was behind the push while they were in power, why is the left using it so much now and the right isn't? Fucking hard to get real info from both sides and it's really hard to believe any of them now. I'll have to take another look until the numbers. And I haven't heard anything about the aquifer drying up. I'd like to read up on that. Can you point me to some info?
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Jan 3 2022 01:23pm
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 3 2022 01:18pm)
If Karl Rove during the Bush administration was behind the push while they were in power, why is the left using it so much now and the right isn't? Fucking hard to get real info from both sides and it's really hard to believe any of them now. I'll have to take another look until the numbers. And I haven't heard anything about the aquifer drying up. I'd like to read up on that. Can you point me to some info?


So first off "the left" isn't one group. Plenty of people still use global warming instead of climate change, and both are real and heading towards very serious problems.

Secondly, climate change is technically more accurate, and if there's one thing smug leftists LOVE it's being technically accurate. Various leftist groups will fight endlessly over the definitions of various subsets of political theory so getting them to grab onto "climate change" over "global warming" was pretty easy.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-ogallala-aquifer/

We're already seeing significant regions dependent on the aquafer being unable to pump water from it. The biggest culprit is agriculture in the region. Water conservation efforts are going to need to be massive and strict in the very near future or the world's breadbasket will soon be gone.
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Jan 3 2022 01:26pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 01:09pm)
It was called global warming then conservatives rebranded it to climate change because it didn't sound as scary. Karl Rove in the Bush administration was specifically behind that big push.

The warning has never been "10 years from now". That's literally just conservative propaganda repeated over so much that people think it's true. Scientists have been very specific in their predictions and they have consistently underestimated the effect.

We're pretty much screwed as it is. The aquafer that supplies the entire western half of the U.S. and the Colorado River are drying up. Goodbye the whole Western U.S.'s source of fresh water.


Global warming wasn't rebranded into climate change by politicians, it was done by climatologists and civil engineers, I would know. It was throughout the late 90s and early 2000s, as a way to distinguish the more widespread ecological impacts of anthropogenic climate change, against just the simplified narrative of 'its getting warmer'. The terms were both always in use, its just that one was imprecise and narrowly scoped.

And no, scientists have never, ever, ever been 'very specific' in their predictions nor have they consistently underestimated effects. Scientists produced extremely wide ranges of models that all had low degrees of certainty and wildly varying outcomes, and when work was actually done with the models in adaptation efforts, it looked at average and consensus models, not singular predictions. Even when we look at wide lens predictions like global average temperatures, the models varied drastically. The famous 2C model was just another average of many models. I really can't stress how climatology is one of the least precise, least exact forms of statistical modelling. When you take 100 different models that have many outliers and a wide range of uncertainty and take a fitted curve in them, you aren't being specific and you are neither underestimating nor overestimating impacts, you just don't really know. What the models agree upon is more general trends, like an overall average temperature upwards over long periods, higher potential (but not necessarily average outcomes) for maximum probable flood events due to hotter air having a higher moisture carrying cap, etc. When it comes to more derivative predictions like frequency of hurricane formation, nobody knows.

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Jan 3 2022 01:32pm
The left are nazis. I have zero interest in ceding one blade of grass to nazis.
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Jan 3 2022 01:35pm
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So first off "the left" isn't one group.


The left are nazis. They are not all one group. Some are like Hitler. Others are simply low level guards at concentration camps. We go after them ALL. A manhunt for the rest of their lives. We dont delineate when going after monsters.
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Jan 3 2022 01:58pm
so would it be divided by cities vs rural areas?
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Jan 3 2022 01:59pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 11:17am)
Me: Literally eat the rich

You: Ha, you think you're opposing the rich?



lol k


I know it's complicated, but yes. You are serving the hyper rich with the current brand du jour of leftism. You think when AOC wears the eat the rich dress that the rich go "oh no what ever will we do?"
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Jan 3 2022 02:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 3 2022 12:20pm)
Before the first civil war, the north had a base of mechanized production, supply lines and raw material mining operations already in place, on top of being large amounts of personal farmlands. The south had plantations and slave labor.
Today the political divisions in America are between liberal urban areas which are densely populated, completely dependent on imports and have almost zero manufacturing, instead being mostly service side industry and white collar- and the rural areas and farther suburbs which have the entirety of the production sector, farming, transportation, power infrastructure, etc.

The United States cannot split apart on political divisions because one side is completely dependent on the other. Its like the pre-communist revolution societies where the bourgeoisie cannot exist without the support of their vassal working class, who are undergoing rapidly deteriorating economic conditions. The difference is that the "parasites" have convinced themselves that they are the oppressed and blame the people even richer then themselves, like the post-communist revolution societies where everyone who owns one more cow than you is a kulak.

America can't have a revolution or divorce or reformation at this point, but it could still collapse into disfunction, anarchy and famine. Everyone blessed to live in a time of prosperity doesn't think its possible until it happens. Even if we've made ourselves immune to the classical crop failures of a year of drought that ancient civilizations had to grapple with, we're still vulnerable to system failures of overpopulation, broken supply lines, counterproductive bureaucracy, etc. This year we struggled to find toilet paper on shelves. If enough people don't show up to work and inflation skyrockets enough and crime keeps spiraling, it could reach a breaking point where you can't find food on shelves. And when that happens, the cities starve. It would have been unthinkable doomsaying before Covid



You just made inked excited.
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Jan 3 2022 02:26pm
just check how peaceful are divorces in US to imagine how such "thing" would end.
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