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Nov 30 2021 10:32pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 30 2021 11:26pm)
If you're directly asking me with honesty. Sit down with the kid and have a conversation about life and his feelings. Perhaps even therapy could have prevented this.
People are afraid to talk about others because they don't want the same done to them. If just one of the concerned students came forth to the right adult this possibly could have been prevented.
Social media and other new forms of communication have adversely changed how children grow up. The warning signs are written in public view and the parents should have taken notice.

Not sure where you got locking people up from. Mr 2021.

Mental Health is not taken serious enough in America, What that means I'm not entirely sure but I can say that it's a direct correlation to events like this.
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ok sorry if it seems rude but this is delusional as fuck.

people that have mental issues can go on a shooting rampage at literally any moment, even if somebody prevented this one he could easily get triggered and shoot up the school next week there is no way to prevent crazy people from doing crazy shit unless you lock them up

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ok sorry if it seems rude but this is delusional as fuck.

people that have mental issues can go on a shooting rampage at literally any moment, even if somebody prevented this one he could easily get triggered and shoot up the school next week there is literally no way to prevent crazy people from doing crazy shit unless you lock them up


Who defines the reason to "lock them up"?

Depression for example was not taken serious until fairly recently in history. Would you also suggest those who suffer from depression simply get "locked up"?
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Who defines the reason to "lock them up"?

Depression for example was not taken serious until fairly recently in history. Would you also suggest those who suffer from depression simply get "locked up"?


yea all weird people are going in the gulag until we figure out how to stop school shootings
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yea all weird people are going in the gulag until we figure out how to stop school shootings


we gonna decide by asking 5 teachers in school or 5 coworkers if you are adult if 3/5 agree you are likely to be a shooter you go in gulag

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Nov 30 2021 11:38pm
I think his point is, if you want to kill people you are going to kill people. There are no preventative measures you can realistically take to prevent something like this from happening.

I mean metal detectors wouldn’t have hurt but even then if he really wanted to do something terrible he was going to no matter what.
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Oh, so the left doesn’t jump aboard every politically convenient shooting incident and use it to get people on board with restricting second amendment rights?

Tell me how strict gun laws are reducing shootings in California, illinois, New York, etc.


always amazing how the people directly responsible for this shit are the last to notice. remember how in your previous post you acted like those shooting being on national news somehow translates to the people being disarmed?

well, the FACTS are exactly the OPPOSITE of your claim. national coverage of shootings has been a godsend for the NRA and firearm manufacturers for literal decades now: it allows them to fearmonger about "gungrabbing", which works like a charm - especially thanks to gullible idiots like you, who uncritically accept and regurgitate their bullshit.

meanwhile in reality, americans currently own more guns than ever before, and sales are highest after mass shootings and democrat electoral wins, because of how easily people like you are manipulated by fearmongering and lies.

i also noticed how you completely ignored the part that with all those guns to "protect" your freedoms, rights, and safety, you sure are the most unfree, rightless, and unsafe society amongst your peers. funny how that works, huh? it's almost like your ruling class left you to play with your little toys, while completely disenfranchising you - without having to fire or even fear a single shot. it's almost like a functioning democracy is a much more powerful tool to protect your rights than firearms, not that i expect an american right winger to comprehend, let alone admit that...
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always amazing how the people directly responsible for this shit are the last to notice. remember how in your previous post you acted like those shooting being on national news somehow translates to the people being disarmed?

well, the FACTS are exactly the OPPOSITE of your claim. national coverage of shootings has been a godsend for the NRA and firearm manufacturers for literal decades now: it allows them to fearmonger about "gungrabbing", which works like a charm - especially thanks to gullible idiots like you, who uncritically accept and regurgitate their bullshit.

meanwhile in reality, americans currently own more guns than ever before, and sales are highest after mass shootings and democrat electoral wins, because of how easily people like you are manipulated by fearmongering and lies.

i also noticed how you completely ignored the part that with all those guns to "protect" your freedoms, rights, and safety, you sure are the most unfree, rightless, and unsafe society amongst your peers. funny how that works, huh? it's almost like your ruling class left you to play with your little toys, while completely disenfranchising you - without having to fire or even fear a single shot. it's almost like a functioning democracy is a much more powerful tool to protect your rights than firearms, not that i expect an american right winger to comprehend, let alone admit that...



Yeah your entire rant is based on the false premise that I said people are taking gun rights away.

The fuck can you even read kid I said the left uses these events, when convenient, to convince people it is a good idea to restrict the second amendment.

QUOTE=WickedDarkJuggalos,Nov 30 2021 08:01pm]Oh, so the left doesn’t jump aboard every politically convenient shooting incident and use it to get people on board with restricting second amendment rights?

Tell me how strict gun laws are reducing shootings in California, illinois, New York, etc.[/QUOTE]

Again……

You are a rude idiot.

But it’s almost like nothing you talked about even matters when I don’t ever have to worry about my life or the life of my family. Huh, funny how being confident you are going to stay alive makes you feel better. Ya know, not having to depend on complete strangers for personal safety.

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Yeah your entire rant is based on the false premise that I said people are taking gun rights away.

The fuck can you even read kid I said the left uses these events, when convenient, to convince people it is a good idea to restrict the second amendment.


Again……

You are a rude idiot.

But it’s almost like nothing you talked about even matters when I don’t ever have to worry about my life or the life of my family. Huh, funny how being confident you are going to stay alive makes you feel better. Ya know, not having to depend on complete strangers for personal safety.


didn't you, just a couple of posts ago, claim that you don't even own a firearm? lol, you can't even keep your lies straight within a single thread...

so who is going to protect your kids from school shooters again? you're gonna sit in the classroom with them? who is gonna protect them visiting a concert / church / mall? you know what actually protects people? living in a society that isn't completely obsessed with firearms and violence - again, look at homicides in the US compared to the civilised world.

btw, it's a well established statistical FACT that a gun in your home INCREASES your chance of getting shot - significantly. everybody thinks they and their family are a reasonable, competent, and stable gun owners - until one of them isn't.

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Again……

You are a rude idiot.

But it’s almost like nothing you talked about even matters when I don’t ever have to worry about my life or the life of my family. Huh, funny how being confident you are going to stay alive makes you feel better. Ya know, not having to depend on complete strangers for personal safety.


didn't you, just a couple of posts ago, claim that you don't even own a firearm? lol, you can't even keep your lies straight within a single thread...

so who is going to protect your kids from school shooters again? you're gonna sit in the classroom with them? who is gonna protect them visiting a concert / church / mall? you know what actually protects people? living in a society that isn't completely obsessed with firearms and violence - again, look at homicides in the US compared to the civilised world.

btw, it's a well established statistical FACT that a gun in your home INCREASES your chance of getting shot - significantly. everybody thinks they and their family are a reasonable, competent, and stable gun owners - until one of them isn't.[/QUOTE]


Over half of statistical gun deaths are suicides. But I bet you didn’t know that >_> So, yeah obviously when you consider that HUGE omission by basically everybody who takes your side of this argument. I am actually well aware of most of the statistics anybody pulls out when it comes to gun laws and my position still remains 100% second amendment.

Also where have I ever claimed to own a gun or lied about anything? You need to chill and take things in before you just post.

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so when your wife or your kid kills themselves with a gun, they are somehow not dead, or how does that work in your smooth brain?

the increased chance of firearm death also applies to accidents and homicide, so even if you eliminated suicides from the equation, which is a dumb approach to begin with, the FACTS are still on my side: having a gun in your household significantly increases your chance of getting shot.
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that part made it sound like you pretended to own a gun to "protect" your family:

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"I don’t ever have to worry about my life or the life of my family. Huh, funny how being confident you are going to stay alive makes you feel better. Ya know, not having to depend on complete strangers for personal safety."


if that's not what you were implying, explain what you meant by it. this is going to be some crazy mental gymnastics, lol...
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