Sounds similar to "Texas will go blue this time!"

Liberals in Minnesota ran around literally burning down the city and shooting people left and right in weeks of chaos, mayhem and looting. Crime surged and now shootings and carjackings are occurring minutes or hours apart nonstop. This happened before the 2020 election, and even with mobs burning down cities, MN went +7 to Biden, a much larger margin than its +1.5 Clinton in 2016. Tina Smith, the least respected and least notable member of the senate, won +5.2, and even the easy house victories in safe red districts were narrower margins.

Normal people don't see their state on fire and go vote for firemen to put out the flames. Normal people are out there burning down buildings

i like how people think "crimes goes up and they'll vote GOP" without thinking over that cities like NYC, Detroit, Milwaukee, LA, etc have been crime ridden shitholes for decades and are DNC strongholds.

crime and political affiliation swapping just arent tied together the way that people think they should be.

His rambling about blacks abandoning the Democrats in large numbers is obviously wishful thinking. However, I do indeed expect Wisconsin to become a red state going forward, just like I expect Georgia to become reliably blue at the presidential level from 2028 onward. The demographic trends are just too strong in these cases.

The electoral future of Arizona, North Carolina and Pennsylvania is much more up in the air imho.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 1 2021 09:50am

Agreed. I think if Youngkin can pull this off, it will give the GOP some breathing room to distance themselves from Trumpism. If you can find a bullshit issue to distract the culture warriors, you can keep the McConnell types like Youngkin in power. The key is to be able to control the anger by focusing on issues that will resolve themselves I think.

and now officials can reverse the election state wide in both GA/AZ
2 wins for the GQP

I'm not entirely sure what makes an issue bullshit versus not bullshit.

What the Democrats appear to be doing in VA, though, is alienating large blocs of hitherto blue voters that are not normally consumers of Republican "red meat" culture topics. And that shouldn't really be a surprise, because Democrats are far more radical on racial policy (including immigration), and government control than they were a few cycles ago when Barrack Obama ran as a left of center moderate. What we're seeing right now is an overreaction to Trump on the left, that in turn is alienating moderates and pushing them to the right. I expect to see the Democrats punished over the next few cycles until they manage to get a hold on their radical wing and move back towards the center.

I think an issue becomes bullshit when it's a blatant mischaracterization of what happened. Then there is the aspect of whether or not we should talk about a particular issue. I believe local issues should largely remain local unless they are part of a nationwide trend.

You don't need to convince me that Democrats are bad at messaging and I fully support the destruction of the radical elements of the Democrat party. I JOINED the party so that I can combat progressives with my vote. I'll obviously join the GOP again for the 2024 primary if Biden runs unopposed. I think you're looking at Obama with rose-tinted glasses though. He was significantly more radical and dangerous and was only stopped because of McConnell's shrewdness.

This so much!


Is Youngkin really a McConnell type? I genuinely can't tell. At the end of the day, that's the secret of his success: he was able to thread the needle between being sufficiently pro-Trump to keep the Trump coalition together, and sufficiently distanced from Trump as to not alienate the swing voters.

I do not, however, think that the "focus on a bullshit issue that will resolve itself" will be a viable concept. The battle over CRT and education will continue and if he wants to have a political future, Youngkin will have to deliver for his voters on this front in a way that flies in the face of liberal sensibilities. There is no escape from the pull of hyperpolarization. Threading the needle might work for one campaign during which the other side overplayed their hand and suffers from multiple self-inflicted wounds, but it imho is not a feasible long-term strategy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 1 2021 01:21pm

Really? The guy was the CEO of the Carlyle Group lol. He's the swampiest of the swamp and that's a good thing. We need people who understand the ins and outs of business running the GOP.

The thing is, there's nothing for Youngkin to DO outside of talking with superintendents to keep the really crazy shit out. If you look at the CRT legislation in other states, you'll see that it has absolutely nothing to do with CRT and it just reiterates law that already exists. And that's fine because sometimes you just need to pretend to do something. Ultimately, we just need to teach our kids ACTUAL history. You of all people should be in support of that.