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Sep 8 2021 09:42am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 8 2021 11:36am)
Insert Trumps recent uptick in "I'm going to run in 2024" I think he knows the GQP will riot and murder to put him in office to save everyone from the baby eaters and communist jew lasers.


The scary thing is that since Trump's attempt to steal the election in 2020, the GOP is even more authoritarian and psychotic, including at the state level. So even without the presidency, there's a greater chance of him successfully stealing it this time. Or he wins legitimately because Biden is unimpressive and old as fuck, and we're faced with a totally unhinged Trump for 4 years without any people around him who temper his worse impulses.
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The scary thing is that since Trump's attempt to steal the election in 2020, the GOP is even more authoritarian and psychotic, including at the state level. So even without the presidency, there's a greater chance of him successfully stealing it this time. Or he wins legitimately because Biden is unimpressive and old as fuck, and we're faced with a totally unhinged Trump for 4 years without any people around him who temper his worse impulses.


Thats the fucked part like everything you are saying is common knowledge and there are still plebs that are like ' ya god dang ol Murika"
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Sep 16 2021 06:48pm
Good win for Dems with the California recall getting rekt so hard.

Been talking to my Brother in law and he is turning to the Dems side recently after realizing that elections aren't rigged and the pubs are just spewing garbage all the time.

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Sep 16 2021 07:48pm
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Good win for Dems with the California recall getting rekt so hard.

Been talking to my Brother in law and he is turning to the Dems side recently after realizing that elections aren't rigged and the pubs are just spewing garbage all the time.


Newsom was outspending the recall proponents by a 5:1 margin. Not really a miracle to turn out some parts of your base with that kind of effort - and turning just parts of his base out was all he needed to win in Commiefornia.
The recall was essentially over as soon as Newsom successfully strongarmed all noteworthy Democrats into staying out of this race. With voters not having an option to replace him with a more progressive or moderate Democrat, the race turned into generic D vs R, which ensured his victory in a state like CA.


If we're trying to get cues from local races about the national political environment heading into midterms season, the Virginia gubernatorial election will be much more informative.

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Newsom was outspending the recall proponents by a 5:1 margin. Not really a miracle to turn out some parts of your base with that kind of effort - and turning just parts of his base out was all he needed to win in Commiefornia.
The recall was essentially over as soon as Newsom successfully strongarmed all noteworthy Democrats into staying out of this race. With voters not having an option to replace him with a more progressive or moderate Democrat, the race turned into generic D vs R, which ensured his victory in a state like CA.


If we're trying to get cues from local races about the national political environment heading into midterms season, the Virginia gubernatorial election will be much more informative.



Californians love a leader who unilaterally forces rules on his constituency that he nor his fellow taxpayer leeches are required to follow. a pale pasty privileged lefty like him gets to wine and dine sans mask, and minorities cant take a walk alone outside without 4 masks on despite being fully vaccinated under threat of fines or incarceration
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Sep 16 2021 08:29pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 16 2021 08:48pm)
Newsom was outspending the recall proponents by a 5:1 margin. Not really a miracle to turn out some parts of your base with that kind of effort - and turning just parts of his base out was all he needed to win in Commiefornia.
The recall was essentially over as soon as Newsom successfully strongarmed all noteworthy Democrats into staying out of this race. With voters not having an option to replace him with a more progressive or moderate Democrat, the race turned into generic D vs R, which ensured his victory in a state like CA.


If we're trying to get cues from local races about the national political environment heading into midterms season, the Virginia gubernatorial election will be much more informative.


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California has no donation limits for recall elections, it's not really a surprise that he got massive donations from the likes of Soros, Zuck, Hollywood, and labor unions lol.
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California has no donation limits for recall elections, it's not really a surprise that he got massive donations from the likes of Soros, Zuck, Hollywood, and labor unions lol.


nor did i say it was, just like the outcome of the failed recall.
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Sep 17 2021 02:05pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 16 Sep 2021 21:48)
Newsom was outspending the recall proponents by a 5:1 margin. Not really a miracle to turn out some parts of your base with that kind of effort - and turning just parts of his base out was all he needed to win in Commiefornia.
The recall was essentially over as soon as Newsom successfully strongarmed all noteworthy Democrats into staying out of this race. With voters not having an option to replace him with a more progressive or moderate Democrat, the race turned into generic D vs R, which ensured his victory in a state like CA.


If we're trying to get cues from local races about the national political environment heading into midterms season, the Virginia gubernatorial election will be much more informative.


So I dont think you know how the recall works.

All voters had an option to vote for someone more or less radical if they answered no to question 1, so your whole argument is dogshit

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So I dont think you know how the recall works.

All voters had an option to vote for someone more or less radical if they answered no to question 1, so your whole argument is dogshit


LOL

Newsom and his supporters specifically told Californians to vote "no" on the first question ("should newsom be recalled") and leave the second question ("If there is a new governor, who should it be") empty.
With only unknown rando Democrats on the ballot for question 2, most Democratic voters did just that and left question 2 open. Which is also why Larry Elder, the Republican, was having a clear lead on the 2nd question.

Had there been a noteworthy Democrat on the ballot, one with name recognition, fundraising ability and some kind of institutional support, the first question (the actual recall) would have turned into a referendum on Newsom's governorship and thus prompted some members of the Dem coalition to vote in favor of the recall, greatly increasing its chances of succeeding. By keeping credible Democrats off the ballot, Newsom ensured that the first question (actual recall) was a choice between Democratic and Republican rule in California, which the D side of course won.

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