I am going to coin the phrase: "blow back better."

Its gold Jerry. GOLD

Biden could've sold it. He'd do a primetime address, explaining to the American people that after 20 years of blood and treasure lost, he's disarming the Afghan military, ensuring a Taliban takeover of the country, extending the withdrawal date(thereby breaking the agreement with the Taliban, resulting in them resuming attacks on our soldiers), and sending in thousands of more US troops to get our equipment.

He could also get our Special Ops guys to go house to house to kidnap all the dumb Americans who decided to ignore months of warnings by the State Department to leave the country.

That would've worked out better, me thinks.

Pretty much this. The way the Afghan military rolled over to the Taliban in spite of a big numeric and technological advantage is strong, irrefutable proof that the nation building in Afghanistan has failed spectacularly. Biden is spot on when he says that 5 or 10 or even more additional years would not make a difference when the Afghan government and military cannot or will not hold their own country.

The decision to leave was the right call. What has been an abject failure is the execution of this withdrawal. Biden and his generals had months to fix any potential holes in the timetable Trump had left them, so these failures are really on them.
Now, we could of course delve into hypotheticals about how the troop withdrawal would have gone down under Trump (had he won reelection), and the bottom line probably is that Trump would have fucked it up too. But that does not, in any way shape or form, relieve or exonerate Biden from his responsibility.


I don't think anyone is specifically to blame for the attacks which took place today. The situation at the airport had been a total mess and super dicey for many days, it was pretty much inevitable that something like that would happen.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 26 2021 05:51pm

pretty much yeah

the syria part is still the worst for me though, because thats the conflict with the worst fighting

and worst propaganda about moderate rebels for years, who turned out to be ISIS, al nusra and friends

syria also shows that an actually committed army can win a war against the odds

So its a nothingburger.

Good to know

Guess we over estimated you. Youre actually a school janitor. I understand why you were reluctant to tell us.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Aug 26 2021 05:59pm

Yeah.

Or "a horrific tragedy cynically exploited by the right-wing for political purposes". In that sense, it is Biden's Benghazi.

There's multiple US senators calling for Biden to resign or be impeached. That is the response to terrorists attacking US troops in the midst of an evacuation from a war zone.

Even worse. We disarmed the fathers and armed the criminals with divorce and gun control.

Liberal FAIL!

That would have been a profoundly dumb idea I think. I imagine the number of soldiers killed in those operations would exceed the total number that will die until Aug 31. Also, as soon as the Afghans got word that we were disarming them, they'd blackmarket that shit quite quickly because they are corrupt AF.

After the operation is complete, I expect to see several resignations. There really are no excuses for some of the mishaps. It would not surprise me if Blinken stepped down given that the refugee crisis lands squarely with the State Department.