Citation needed.

If there's evidence that Covid is made in a lab they need to publish it in a peer reviewed journal. If they haven't done that then they are speculating and their words do not carry the weight of the scientific method.

There is no scientific proof that bat raped pangolin which created virus that moved to human as well, yet its globally accepted theory which brings comfort and trust in the system, yet it doesnt have a single proof claiming it. Its basically a conspiracy theory

Lab leak theory was however accepted by every single virologist and evolutionary biologist that know how these things develop more than you and I.
However, they get banned for saying that.

I see what you mean but hard evidence is impossible to get as lab that virus escaoed from refuses to cooperate since pandemics beginning

Nah, basically every reputable virologist agrees that there is a ton of evidence showing natural origin for the virus and nothing so far that shows it was man-made or had any kind of human manipulation.

The bat and pangolin intermediaries were based on specific genetic sequences in the virus and can be found in dozens of publications.

Dumb dumb.

Tv is one hell of a drug

Being scientifically literate is pretty great. You avoid falling down conspiracy rabbit holes like "they're censoring scientists". Bruh, I work in science. I know how to read these papers and I know how to tell when something isn't backed up with evidence.

"bruh i work in science"
Ignores science by reading nothing but papers supported by the ones profiting of pandemics
Guess ill have to find new sources since listening to scientists talking science on science podcasts with hosts that are scientists is less credible than politicians controling science released on tv

https://nypost.com/2021/05/22/the-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-looks-more-credible-then-ever/
First thing off google. Didnt read whole thing, but looks like it could slightly explain it. Nypost though

Opinion piece
nypost
No links to scientific research
Conflates lab leak with man-made

They reference Nicholas Wade who published this article (not peer reviewed or containing any new research) which is the closest thing to research they cite, and is actually something I've been meaning to tackle for a while.



https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

He does not provide evidence of lab-leak. He merely provides the possibility of some undetectable manipulation. This is what we call JAQing off. Or, Just-Asking-Questions. Instead of offering explanations and mechanisms he basically just says "Well did they use X method that would conveniently account for the fact that there's no evidence of manipulation?" Ultimately it adds nothing to the conversation.

He also says natural emergence has not gained a shred of evidence, which is patently false. We've identified multiple sequences that are characteristic of immune system dodging in pangolins. This suggests an intermediate species. Now, his response would likely be "well, what if they used pangolins for their passage?". Which is why JAQing off is not productive. It endlessly speculates about the possibility that they lined up the circumstances just right and relies on not taking the evidence in totality.

The totality of evidence shows a lot of support for natural origin, and no support so far for any kind of manipulation.

Yes, it's possible it was made in a lab and none of the probably dozens or hundreds of people working on the project have said anything, and it's possible those people used an undetectable method, and it's possible that the undetectable method involved serial passage with bats and pangolins, and it's possible that to create the virus they created their own totally new DNA sequence to base the virus on, and blah blah blah

but the more likely situation is that it just arose naturally, as viruses tend to do from time to time. It's not like this was out of the blue. Scientists have been warning for the past 10+ years that we could see an emergence of an infectious flu-like virus like Covid in the near future, and bats would be the most likely point of spread.

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Yeah im aware there have been warnings, as there was a meeting 2 months prior to covid which discussed global lockdowns in cases of globally spread virus. We did a good job preparing ourselves considering we knew its a matter of time.
I guess 2 first victims of covid related deaths being wuhan employee plus another employee's wife back k in november 2019 is a coincidence. As much as a coincidence of closing down wuhan lab for covid virus researches and putting army there to protect it from anyone trying to question whats behind closed doors before covid was spread.
Shittons of coincidences, but glad we got papers approved by usa that had worst covid response globally and still has no idea what to do.

U got me lad, imma double check everything now except those earning millions from pandemic

Lot of claims and no citations.

What does "Wuhan employee" even mean? Somebody working in the city?
What "wuhan lab for Covid virus researchers" are you referencing? Because the Wuhan CDC most commonly pointed to as being next to the market isn't a laboratory, so you're going to have to be specific.


You're basically just repeating propaganda without really making sense if you take two seconds to read your statements. The first step to being scientifically minded is to be specific with your language. Once you drop things like "Wuhan employee" and instead look up where they worked, what they did, and when you will usually get about 10% of the way through your researching and find it's either fabricated or greatly misrepresented.

Wuhan lab scientist working on covid viruses picked up virus and died in nobember 2019
His colleague survived covid-like symptoms while his wife died from same symptoms.

Keep it up buddy