We don't know the medium to long term effects of COVID either. Maybe it makes you more susceptible to HIV. Maybe it will cause you to have Alzheimer's in 10 years. Maybe it will destroy your liver (nvm Bob wouldn't care about that). Maybe the spike proteins will pool in your lungs and it causes lung cancer in 4 years. Maybe, you'll have a stroke in 6 years. Fact is, we just don't have the data to prove that these things WON'T happen. You know, science?

Covid experts are also patriot whistleblowers exposing the high tech risky shift or MRNA agenda or normalization of deviance. leading experts also foretold of leaky covid19 vax as a conduit producing indefinite variants; as in the case of Gert vanden bosche:
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

Treating sickness w/ natural remedies is the opposite of reckless when the germs are resistant, treating drug resistant germs w/ unproven MRNA drugs is low iq tom foolery

Clinicians make money to distribute a drug, independent researchers or whistle blowers give it up to tell the truth.

shills for sake of is definitely the new MO. The new standard of "leading expert" is televised or friends w/ child pedos?

Yikes.

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Unfortunately their insane intellectual narcissism and vast stupidity is endangering and inconveniencing others.

But in a way they do deserve it. Fuck them.

True, and a very valid point. In some ways, this is yet another reason that those of us interested in the actual science are paying such close attention to things. So, several points for you to consider:

1. According to the CDC, vaccinated people can still contract and become carriers and asymptomatic spreaders of the virus.
2. There is no prior evidence from coronaviruses specifically, which we know a LOT about, that they leave any such time-delayed issues.
3. The #1 case of a virus hanging out dormant and reemerging is Chickenpox, which becomes shingles. However, the vaccine, in that case, is a weakened strain, and can indeed reemerge later as Shingles.
4. The concern with the mRNA vaccines has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's a vaccine. It has everything to do with a new method being forced on people against their will when there have not been studies about mid to long term effects. Covid, on the other hand, is something that you may catch, that may or may not do anything bad to you. In effect, the comparison you're attempting to make would be similar to taking healthy people and starting them on chemo, even though they show no signs of cancer, or cutting women's breasts off even though they don't have breast cancer, and don't have a family history of it. "This could happen, and it'd be worse, so we're going to force you to do this other bad thing for prevention." Now, is the vaccine a bad thing? We don't know. We don't think so, but it's not knowable.

And once again, I thought you're a fan of "My Body, My Choice"? The vaccine's available to you and your loved ones. Why should you be attempting to force others to take it?

And the last thought would have to do with the Delta Variant. According to the American Society for Microbiology, the Delta Variant is more highly contagious, though it appears to not have as bad of symptoms. It also appears that the vaccines are not as effective in it's prevention, with a ton of "breakthrough" cases.

So I suppose the question would be, if Covid is unique among coronaviruses in long term impacts, but even with the vaccine it's still quite possible to get, AND the Delta Variant having such wonderful breakthrough capability, isn't it possible that patients could suffer any/all of the possible mid to long term impacts of the vaccine, and still suffer whatever mid to long term impacts covid would magically be producing?

I mean, since you mentioned science, and all.

"1." == Using this argument without a "much, much, less than" is pretty dishonest. Much, much,less : catching, spreading (symptoms), hospitalizations, ICU/ventilators, deaths.
"2." == Introducting doubt to dismantle, sounds like you can try that with climate change too.
"3." == One dose of chickenpox vaccine prevents 95% of moderate disease and 100% of severe disease.
"4." == "New" & "we dont know" ? This method is experimented since more than 30 years i think.

Drugs are... Not good.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Aug 14 2021 10:43am

It's not valid, I was mocking you. If you just did the TINIEST bit of research and applied the TINIEST bit of critical thought, you wouldn't write such asinine posts. If you slowed down a bit, you'd certainly revise your posts.

If you don't like the mRNA vaccine, fine. Get the J&J and call it a day. And no, I'm not a fan of "my body, my choice." Why would you think that given that I'm pro-life and believe that life begins at conception?

None of the rest of your post is relevant. This part is simply false. mRNA vaccines for Zika, Flu, Rabies, etc. are what you're talking about. And none of the above made it through phase 3 of the trials prior to covid, let alone to mid to long term studies, especially not in humans.



No, flat out, I was addressing you on your own level, mocking. You don't discuss or debate, nor do you add anything to conversations ever. There's literally zero in your posts that require critical thought.

And, if you slowed down long enough to pay attention, you'd also realize that I've already had covid. Thus, a viral vector vaccine would be almost entirely useless. Further, the J&J's efficacy against the Delta Variant is poor.

Now, do you have any other magical suggestions?

Stop eating so many crayons you down syndrome pontificating Socrates.

Im in the mid of Pfizer shots, getting my second in a week.

The first successful transfection of mRNA packaged within a liposomal nanoparticle into a cell was published in 1989

Liposome-encapsulated mRNA was shown in 1993 to stimulate T-cells in mice, and mRNA proved useful two years later to elicit both humoral and cellular immune response against a pathogen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

My posts are fucking relevant and you know it. Fear my posts.

/the sad truth is that mrna vaccines are stronger than classc vaccines, they can also provoke stronger reactions; they are more effective.
You can also combine multiple vaccines (against different variants) in 1 shot of rna injection, while it's not possible with traditional.

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