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Jun 10 2021 10:31pm
Quote (fender @ 11 Jun 2021 02:15)
oh please, all the "free speech" advocates (on the "intellectual" right, and also in this forum) that clutched their pearls over a publisher deciding (not a coordinated pressure campaign from "the left") to withdraw some books containing blatantly racist stereotypes, acting like it's the end of the world, were completely quiet (or even calling for her to get fired themselves) on this. they are the SAME people, not some seperate entity exclusively concerned with israel. it's right wing "cancel culture".

oh come on. most conservatives didnt even notice this story because it wasnt making huge headlines. also, you are a bad faith actor and I dont have the time and motivation to look through your link, and then check out the reporting on the same story from other sources to make sure that your preferred angle isnt the typical, manipulative spin.

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also, concerning your silly claim that "left wing cancel culture" has overtaken that of right wingers recently, here's a quick reminder of the most banned books of 2019:

https://i.imgur.com/SAQIa9h.jpeg

Who assembled this list, and which criteria were used? To be fair though, I'm surprised that LGBTQIA*#@ stuff is seeing so much censorship. For now, I'll concede half a point to you on this one.



Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 11 Jun 2021 02:21)
Oh yes, it's definitely liberals trying to outlaw boycotting Israel. lol. That's ridiculous. It's obviously conservative, even if it isn't one specific party.

Also, look at Fender's most recent post. Particularly about how common it is for books and TV shows and whatnot to be censored over LGBTQIA+ content.


The right is aligned with forces who want to cancel criticism of Israel.
The left is aligned with forces who want to cancel Israel.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 10 2021 10:32pm
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jun 10 2021 11:55am)
Thanks ^lodd222 for fronting the fg for bold/red.

Since conservatives have decried cancel culture, and we have a lot of conservatives who are regularly accused of being inconsistent with their beliefs, I think it would be good to give them a chance to decry examples of cancel culture from their side so they always have an easy reference for their consistency. This thread is intended to give clear examples of conservative cancel culture so our PaRD conservatives can criticize them, and have a compiled list of times they were consistent in their ideology.




As a first example I present Stanford Law School chapter of The Federalist Society.

A student at Stanford University Law School created and passed around this pamphlet mocking The Federalist Society. For those of you who are unaware, the federalist society is a conservative group that advocates for originalist interpretation of laws, and has massive connections to current and past supreme court justices. Including Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. The Stanford branch of The Federalist Society has such members as Josh Hawley, the target of the flyer.

https://i1.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/stanford-law-school-flyer.jpg
In response to the above flyer the federalist society chapter filed a complaint with the university months later in a clear attempt to disrupt this student's graduation exams.

https://www.thefire.org/stanford-federalist-society-complaint-re-nicholas-wallace/

This is a clear attempt at cancel culture from the right, particularly by a notable branch of The Federalist Society.


what were they cancelling?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Jun 2021 06:31)
oh come on. most conservatives didnt even notice this story because it wasnt making huge headlines. also, you are a bad faith actor and I dont have the time and motivation to look through your link, and then check out the reporting on the same story from other sources to make sure that your preferred angle isnt the typical, manipulative spin.


lol, it might not have been a big story in YOUR right-wing media bubble, but it certainly was a big story outside of the right wing propaganda machine - the story made international headlines.

you know as well as me that had that been a pro israel journalist, fired from a big renowned media organisation for their college activism in support of israel, after an outrage campaign by leftist media outlets and political actors / commentators, the right would have been all over it. it would have been the main story on FOX for weeks, jordan peterson, ben shapiro, and all the other grifters would have done their hilariously transparent and hypocritical george orwell routine, and the imminent end to free speech would have been announced.

it's a textbook example of right wing cancel culture: a targeted campaign to silence voices simply for disagreeing with them.

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Who assembled this list, and which criteria were used? To be fair though, I'm surprised that LGBTQIA*#@ stuff is seeing so much censorship. For now, I'll concede half a point to you on this one.


american library association: https://www.ala.org/advocacy/
just look through the last couple of years, for which you claimed "the left" somehow became the offended anti-free speech side, and you'll realise the overwhelming majority of challenges comes from conservatives. again, the right wing "cancel culture" narrative is pure projection - you only care for "free speech" when the speech is bigoted and aligned with your "values".

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The right is aligned with forces who want to cancel criticism of Israel.
The left is aligned with forces who want to cancel Israel.


talk about "bad faith" and "manipulative". no, "the left" doesn't want to "cancel israel" - "the left" wants them to end the illegal occupation and settlement of palestine territory, and their apartheid regime. the whole "the left doesn't want israel to exist" narrative is complete bs. trying to end the unjust displacement, torture, killing, and imprisonment of a people is no the same as "cancelling israel". maybe inform yourself about BDS before making such ignorant claims.
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Jun 11 2021 02:42am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2021 11:31pm)



The right is aligned with forces who want to cancel criticism of Israel.
The left is aligned with forces who want to cancel Israel.


Bullshit lol

We want them to stop committing literal genocide. We are not targeting them for speech. If disavowing genocide is canceling then you've truly just Admitted that the term is utterly meaningless
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Quote (pwb3 @ Jun 10 2021 09:01pm)
need some kleenex?


i need one every time i meet someone dumb enough to say "dEmOcRaTs sUpPoRtEd sLaVeRy" but doesnt actually know any history. just not for crying.

also your whole "im only gonna copy paste this post of urs if u talk to me forever" campaign lasted a week, weak.

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On the one hand, we have a handful of neighborhood parents in small, marginal communities declining to hold Harry Potter, a book available practically everywhere, including online for free, and whose author is a billionaire. On the other hand we have the major social media players coordinating to scrub an American president from the web.

Suppressing academic inquiries into the origins of covid, or establishing university commissions to determine if academic research is sufficiently "equitable" are both far more concerning that the local school library failing to stock the latest transgender propaganda.

This has been a supremely disappointing thread.
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On the one hand, we have a handful of neighborhood parents in small, marginal communities declining to hold Harry Potter, a book available practically everywhere, including online for free, and whose author is a billionaire. On the other hand we have the major social media players coordinating to scrub an American president from the web.

Suppressing academic inquiries into the origins of covid, or establishing university commissions to determine if academic research is sufficiently "equitable" are both far more concerning that the local school library failing to stock the latest transgender propaganda.

This has been a supremely disappointing thread.


Liberals hate Harry Potter because JKR said women should be able to be proud of having periods, Conservatives hate Harry Potter because witchcraft is against the bible. Centrists like Harry Potter because they're not stupid.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 11 Jun 2021 10:42)
Bullshit lol

We want them to stop committing literal genocide. We are not targeting them for speech. If disavowing genocide is canceling then you've truly just Admitted that the term is utterly meaningless


Read more carefully. I did not say that the entire political left is trying to cancel Isreal, I said that they are aligning themselves with forces who want to cancel Israel. BDS or the good old "from the river to the sea"-mantra are textbook examples.
Equivalently to how you don't share the anti-semitism of, e.g., an Ilhan Omar despite being largely aligned with her on policy and ideological grounds, many conservatives do not feel as if Israel is out of bounds and do not support efforts to suppress criticism of it despite being largely aligned with pro-Israel lobbyist on most issues.

Btw: if there is someone making a term meaningless here, it is you and your very liberal use of the word "genocide".



Quote (fender @ 11 Jun 2021 10:00)
american library association: https://www.ala.org/advocacy/
just look through the last couple of years, for which you claimed "the left" somehow became the offended anti-free speech side, and you'll realise the overwhelming majority of challenges comes from conservatives. again, the right wing "cancel culture" narrative is pure projection - you only care for "free speech" when the speech is bigoted and aligned with your "values".


A quick look at the history of the ALA reveals that they have consistently taken progressive stances dating back to the 1930s.
Either way, their list only pertains to books, which in turn only make up a small share of today's media and information diet. In newspapers, magazines, social media and on college campuses, leftist ideas are dominant and the suppression or outright censorship of conservative thought is far more prevalent.


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talk about "bad faith" and "manipulative". no, "the left" doesn't want to "cancel israel" - "the left" wants them to end the illegal occupation and settlement of palestine territory, and their apartheid regime. the whole "the left doesn't want israel to exist" narrative is complete bs. trying to end the unjust displacement, torture, killing, and imprisonment of a people is no the same as "cancelling israel". maybe inform yourself about BDS before making such ignorant claims.

Using the term "apartheid regime" for Isreal is textbook manipulative, bad faith spin.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 11 2021 06:50am
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