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Jun 8 2021 10:56am
Quote (addone @ 8 Jun 2021 01:26)
Restaurants are a luxury business. You can just cook at home for a fraction of the price. They pay usually lowest wage very demanding working conditions that usually go hand in hand with worst bosses.

They are non essential service and I for one don't see why people need to concern themselves much about this.
Its the farm work that is being neglected. We going to see increase in our food prices that's going to motivate people


Pretty good take.
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Jun 8 2021 11:01am
Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 8 2021 11:28am)
focused on 1 part of my sentence. new skill could also be additional education so they dont have to work the low-skill set retail job.

look at whats going on with WSB and retail investment community. with the time on hand, people learned to invest or get involved in the market and could take that further. if they are disciplined and develop their knowledge further why not invest full time if they can make an equivalent, if not more, for less overall time worked. the key is not to work more, but to increase earnings per hour and maximize other freedoms.

i agree with you that it may not beat the returns, but, supplementing investing with monetizing a hobby that people enjoy doing might be more worthwhile than working and dealing with shitty customers + bosses lol

fyi, my buddy started wood carving and invested in a 3-d print machine to help him out and sells wood signs, tables, etc. he's starting to pick up. will check back with you how he does in 1 yr, although, he does work full time as an engineer and has no plans to exit his job right now so not the demographic we are talking about lol


While i hate hedgies i cant view WSB as a positive thing on the whole. for every moonboy lambo driver there's 10 bag holders or people who just scraped out a modest profit.

i have an IRA, that i put into DCA style, and havent touched it in years. and i pick the occasional stock and invest in crypto. but if u dont have a DCA style 401k you're risking your future imo.

i turned my gardening hobby into a side hustle, so i agree. and i want to work entirely for myself someday, but a big part of that is my IRA backup that i started very early. i can retire at 45, not touch my IRA until 65, and even if there's some lean years im protected in the end game. but i completely agree that retail/fast food work is 100% shit, not to worry, it will be automated from existence soon.
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Jun 8 2021 11:26am
Maybe companies should pay more for employees to do work if they're having trouble drawing them in
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Jun 8 2021 11:36am
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Maybe companies should pay more for employees to do work if they're having trouble drawing them in


Nah bro, wages can't increase, or no company ever in the world can make a profit and everything will shoot up in price by 500x, destroying the retirements of every american and starting another global depression.
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Jun 8 2021 11:43am
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Nah bro, wages can't increase, or no company ever in the world can make a profit and everything will shoot up in price by 500x, destroying the retirements of every american and starting another global depression.


we need population control
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Jun 8 2021 12:06pm
20$ / hour in a country with such wealth and healthcare system ? Jesus.
Maybe add the undeclared work while getting unemployment benefits.
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Jun 8 2021 12:18pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 7 2021 09:34pm)
In the majority of the USA right now there are a lack of workers, particularly in restaurants and retail. Thus far there are two prevailing theories:

1. Lazy bums mooching off of increased and extended unemployment benefits since Covid hit, except now restaurants and retail are filling up as more people go out again and those former employees are now just suckin off the ole government teet instead of going back to work.

2. When Covid hit, there was an exodus of restaurant/retail employees, but it didnt really matter because there were far less customers. Plenty did go on unemployment, but when they went back to work (either a year ago or more recently) they thought "do i really want to go deal with customers directly at restaurants/retail for $10-14/hr with a dickhead boss and shit hours? Or, do I want to make $20/hr setting my own hours cruisin around with no boss as a Doordash or Uber driver?"

I think it's about 10% #1 and 90% #2. I'm largely a free market capitalist with exceptions of times where it makes fiscal sense to spend money to make more money. I see republican boomers (and restaurant owners) kickin and screaming that "no one wants to work anymore" when really, it's just that no one wants to work there. Free market has figured out that the "gig economy" pays more and is a better work environment.

That's my belief, what's yours?


There are a combination of factors at play.

Most companies underpay unless the worker participation is high to the point of saturation.

If people get paid more to stay home than good for them.

The lax unemployment benefits are definitely a mistake, but that is Biden's fault, not the people.
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Jun 8 2021 12:22pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 8 2021 01:18pm)
There are a combination of factors at play.

Most companies underpay unless the worker participation is high to the point of saturation.

If people get paid more to stay home than good for them.

The lax unemployment benefits are definitely a mistake, but that is Biden's fault, not the people.


How is that Biden's fault? The $300/wk bonus (and the $600/wk one before it) was passed under the Trump admin.
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Jun 8 2021 12:37pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 8 2021 01:22pm)
How is that Biden's fault? The $300/wk bonus (and the $600/wk one before it) was passed under the Trump admin.


This has to be the best issue I've ever seen to highlight how insanely low information the pro-Trump and anti-Biden people are.
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Jun 8 2021 12:42pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 8 2021 02:22pm)
How is that Biden's fault? The $300/wk bonus (and the $600/wk one before it) was passed under the Trump admin.


That was six months ago.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 8 2021 02:37pm)
This has to be the best issue I've ever seen to highlight how insanely low information the pro-Trump and anti-Biden people are.


What are the time lengths on the benefits under both administrations?

Does Biden enforce any of the requirements?

Learn your facts before you open your stupid mouth.
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